Side Effects Of Spice Use

heart issues due to using synthetic marijuana spice k2

What Are The Side Effects of Using Spice or K2?

Well, it depends.

The side effects from smoking synthetic marijuana can be the same – or far more dangerous – than those of real weed.

k2 bad trip running in front of traffic
Man wigging out on K2 runs in front of traffic

The side effects you experience depend on which of the many different synthetic cannabinoids you put into your body, how much you used and how you ingested it.

Reports indicate the pleasant side effects of Spice are similar to marijuana, but more intense. These include elevated mood, relaxation and altered perception.

However, many users of synthetic cannabinoids, poison control centers and emergency rooms report far less pleasant and sometimes dangerous side effects are common. These include:

  • psychotic episodes
  • paranoia, increased anxiety and hallucinations – typically much more severe than after smoking marijuana.
  • increased heart rate
  • agitation
  • vomiting
  • seizures
  • uncontrollable body movements
  • lack of emotional attachment
  • sweating and loss of control
  • red eyes
  • dry mouth.

One side effect not shared with natural marijuana is increased hunger. Most herbal incense users report a lack of appetite when using the drug. Some lose 20 or 30 pounds while using spice, then lose even more when they withdraw.

Like many others, I didn’t eat anything for days after I quit.

Is Spice Addictive?

Another side effect not shared with marijuana:  Synthetic cannabinoids can be highly addictive.

Because the drug is sold as a “legal alternative to marijuana”, many people assume there is no risk of addiction to spice.

This is not the case.

Anyone can get physically addicted to synthetic cannabinoids in just a few weeks of regular use.

Some first time users may find that the intensity of the K2 side effects, particularly the negative side effects such as hallucinations, are enough to stop them from trying the drug again.

But others crave the intensity of the Spice high as much as one would from hardcore drugs like heroin, crack, and pain killers.

In fact, this comparison of spice to heroin, meth and crack addiction is common among spice users who’ve submitted their personal stories to this site.

Spice Withdrawals

woman vomiting sick due to spice k2 addiction

One of the tell-tale signs of drug addiction is withdrawal symptoms.

When long-term Spice / K2 users attempt to quit, serious withdrawal symptoms often occur, including:

  • Loss of appetite
  • Vomiting and diarrhea
  • Dehydration
  • Kidney failure or damage
  • Extreme Sweating
  • Inability to sleep
  • Intense cravings
  • Depression
  • Loss of motivation
  • Psychotic episodes
  • Suicidal thoughts
  • Inability to care about consequences

On this site, hundreds of people have posted first-hand accounts of truly nasty withdrawal symptoms.

Detoxing your body from Spice typically takes a week or more, but the side effects may last much longer.

Some ex-addicts crave the drug for years after quittingRelapse is common with spice addiction, too

It’s Not Really That Bad – Is It?

Actually, the side effects of smoking Spice or vaping K2 can be really bad.

In fact, smoking Spice has been fatal in some cases. Death can be quick – for example, after smoking just once – or it may occur after many experiences with the drug.

Spice, K2 and related legal highs have also been implicated in cases of kidney failure and heart attacks. Spice causes reduced blood flow to the heart, also known as myocardial ischemia, which can cause damage to the heart or a heart attack.

Mental health problems are commonly reported by spice users. Testimonials from both regular users and those who used it only one time – commonly mention hallucinations, suicidal and homicidal thoughts and actions, intense fear and paranoia. There are several cases where synthetic weed has been implicated in deaths from suicide or accidental means.

There have also been reports of long term damage to mental health, with continuing hallucinations appearing after several months of trying the drug.

Over 700 Synthetic Cannabinoids – And Counting

THC vs synthetic cannabinoids
THC vs the major classes of synthetic cannabinoids

Today, there are over 700 known variants of synthetic cannabinoids. New molecules are being produced every month.

No one knows exactly how many of these have made it to the street. You may know which one you just smoked, either.

This is why herbal incense side effects vary greatly from package to package, even for the same brand from month to month.

Smoking Spice or K2 from one package may produce a mellow and pleasant effect, while smoking from another package of the same brand might produce intense paranoia and hallucinations – even in the seasoned smoker.

This wide variation in side effects is likely caused by the ‘skirting’ of drug laws by manufacturers of Spice. As one chemical compound sold as Spice or K2 becomes illegal, the makers replace it with another ‘legal’ substance capable of the same physical effects, but slightly different in its chemical makeup.

Another explanation for widely-varying side effects is the crude manner in which these drugs are produced.

One of the largest companies in the synthetic marijuana industry, Mr Nice Guy, was reportedly using cement mixers and nail polish remover to produce their herbal incense. This causes what are known as ‘hot-spots” where the synthetic cannabinoids are much stronger in one area than another in the same package.

While Spice is currently considered a ‘legal’ high in some areas of the world, it is wise to be aware of the side effects and risks of smoking incense – both positive and negative – in making the decision to abstain from or smoke Spice, K2 or any of its ‘herbal incense’ type derivatives.

Many countries, states and counties have made synthetic marijuana illegal due to its side effects – including here in the US. Only a few synthetic cannabinoids are named as a controlled substance by the DEA (US federal government).

Being aware of the risks is the best way to keep yourself safe.

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  • mindcandy001

    I have stopped smoking hit now I can’t eat and if I do I throw it up, even liquids. Even if I’m starving. It’s been about a week and I can’t keep anything down.

    • i hate this

      I recognize this and it makes my withdrawal much harder. The only thing I have eaten for 4 days is a few sandwiches which i had to force myself to eat

      • ????

        Going through the same thing, smoked it for a few weeks everyday, woke up at night and took a hit every day to go back to sleep too. Threw the bag in the trash after i decided to stop smoking the garbage, its been three days: The back of my throat looks like its be scoured, sore all day long, can stop coughing through out the day (especially when I lay down), Immense pressure in the left side of my chest, shortness of breath, no appetite what so ever. I have to force feed myself in order to get anything down. Upset stomach through out the day, irregular bowel movement (mostly diarrhea). My question is has anyone quit and have these symptoms go away and if so how long did it take?

        • its bad mkay

          Itll stop in a few days to a week. Just don’t go back to it. I feel like a huge hypocrite since I just smoked some today.. Iit’s really so bad. I’m gettin into again and I’d like to say I’m done with it myself.. but I been saying everyday for a week. Good luck

    • evan

      I have the exact same problem. I quit only 3 days ago and I can’t keep anything down. it sucks but I had to smoke real weed to get my appetite back but I think our stomachs need to be stretched back out because we haven’t been eating anything. good luck to you guys. let’s stay away from this stuff.

  • helplessgirlfriend

    My boyfriend is talking in his sleep soo clear that I can make out every word he does weird things with his hands in his sleep and just last night he was awake but not awake he flipped out and flipped my mattress and punched my wall I had to wake him up to consciousness and he got scared of how he was acting…. has anyone else been this bad at night???? I don’t know what to do to get him to stop and sleep threw the night he is still not sleeping threw the whole night.. this is now day 6 of him not being able to sleep, although he slept more last night then ever before..

  • Joanne Parmar

    i am certain that my son has a bad addiction to this but will not admit it or that he needs help and myself an family have been paying for it im sure with all the money he borrows or takes any advice you can give me i would greatly be thankful for

    • r

      I’m not sure that I can give you any advice as I’m going through this as well. I just thought I would let you know that you are not alone.

      • Drew

        Many people don’t realize how much it really changes the entire chemistry of the brain. I’ve always had a natural tolerance to outside substances, so I was “lucky” enough to use as much as I could. I hit my rock bottom. For most addicts, they either have this breath taking realization, or die. It’s that simple.
        I’ve been extremely blessed, because I used to smoke more of that slow suicide than anyone I knew and even after dying I was revived. I’ve had some clarity come to my broken brain lately about exactly what I was doing to myself.
        I’ve been studying the human brain and the body for as long as I can remember so I can know myself. As a former fake shit user, I know what effects it can have on the brain. I once had an IQ just under 200, and now it’s leveling out at just above 100. There are drastic personality changes that are measurable, and like I said. It changes the brains entire chemistry.
        I have since been diagnosed with paranoid schizoid personality traits chronic depression that normal anti depressants won’t work on, and a cursing amount of anxiety. My vision has been damaged, and my heart has extremely poor circulation. The health effects were worse than any other drug I’ve ever come across.
        I don’t know how close you are to your son, but if he is doing what you think he is, you MUST remember this. He is slowly committing suicide and first hand I can tell you he isn’t in his right mindset to know that. If he does, he doesn’t give a rats ass.
        Every brand is a different drug that reacts on different receptors of the brain.
        The skewed reality is present for (in my case) for at least 2 weeks after smoked. If addiction is present, and the euphoric fuckup lasts usually no more than an hour, you can’t logically expect your son to have a clear mind about his issue because there’s no way he’s waiting until the adverse effects are gone.
        Many are appalled by the thought of rehab, drug treatment, or free groups such as NA, but I know now that I wouldn’t have checked in myself. My parents had to do it FOR me. At first I thought they were doing it TO me, but they saved my life.
        I couldn’t be more grateful to be sober from mind altering substances today, and it was all due to the help my family gave me. If your son is in as deep as I was he won’t ever stop on his own. He has no need to if he’s still getting money out of your pocket.
        It’s a very scary thing to deal with a loved one in this condition, because I know the constant worry of something bad happening. But I also know of many deaths and drug induced mental retardation that could have been prevented to people I love. I can’t forgive myself, and I wouldn’t wish my regret and blame on anyone in this world. I may not know you, but I know how you’ll feel if he dies. Getting him help will be the best thing you could ever do for him and for yourself.

    • worried mom

      My daughter is addicted to K2. She wil not agree to get help. She had lost her job for being high. Now she has a new job and has gone there high as well. I am worried sick about her future. Anybody have some advise for this worried mom?


    I smoked this for about a month with my friends, maybe once per week. The first time I smoked it, I took two hits and had my first out of body experience. I have never been so high in my life (I have only smoked weed, no other drugs). After I got home, we took 3 more hits. I began hallucinating and laughing uncontrollably to the point where I could not breathe. I had tunnel/flashy vision and had visual hallucinations. After that day, I never had the hallucinations again, rather I just got a normal high from it. About a month after the first time smoking it, I smoked 7 hits by myself and that was a HUGE mistake. I walked into my living room and began to feel my heart racing and pounding out of my chest. My body felt like it was going numb and I could feel my body being shocked. Every few minutes I could feel the shock run through my body while my heart pounded out of my chest. I went to the ER immediately (I was driven by someone), and they said I was having a very mild heart attack. This stuff is dangerous, it kills, and is completely unsafe. I will never smoke it or anything like it again.

    • troydhhdysfgsjevet

      Ok dude I did this shit yesterday I tought It was weed I felt so fucked up off of to hit my vison was flashy and I felt like I was haveing a heart attack and I had the exact things you had I stayed the night in er and thay let me go I feel better but I still feel like high and wourld feels fake and shit did you ever recover if so how long did it take I need some heo geting throught this

  • Tiffany

    My boyfriend had been smoking this with his friends. It effects him so much differently than pot. I don’t like it. He seems out of mind and gets him so much higher. I tell him i worry about him dying from this and he does not care because of the high he gets. It has an addicting factor. He can go through 3 grams in a day. Vs 3 grams of pot in a week. Which to me is a big waste of money because we have more bills to pay because he spends money on spice. When i am not home and he does r he will not answer his phone when i hear him most because he is so out of body he doesn’t hear it. This scares me because of I’m in an accident he won’t pick up…

  • never relapse

    When I heard of spice I thought finally they legalized pot . I did not do any homework on this crap – I just trusted that if the store can sell it — it must be ok- WRONG !!!!!!!
    Spice darn near killed me – for real. I was hooked from day one. I rolled mine up and smoked it like a joint. I could only get half of the joint to burn before it would go out and not re-light. I decided to get a small, clear glass, water pipe. Wow just a couple of puffs and my water looked like mud and. My pretty glass pipe turned BLACK. I bought pipe cleaners – yeah – that was a joke. The black stuff stuck to the glass like spray paint. Never could get it cleaned so every couple of weeks I would have to buy a new pipe cause it would clog up –Nasty.
    Ok now let me share what happened to my health. Outside of hullousations and that crazy behavior, I continued to smoke everyday dam near 24/7 for 11 months. I spent over $ 8000.00 dollars on spice alone-CREDIT CARD. Well I thought I was happy smoking and having a good high but it would only last about 20 minutes and I would have to smoke again. Well this became my life – every 15 – 20 min. OK my health began to really deteriorate . I would suddenly wake up and not be able to breath, lucky for me we do have bottled oxygen in my house. I found myself having ashma issues daily. The doctor had me doing breathing treatments a couple times a day plus using a inhaler. I had 2 trips to the ER. One I couldn’t stop coughing and ended up with a chest infection.
    Second trip – my neighbor drove me .Anyways I spent thousands in medical bills .I lost my voice ,all that smoking messed me up. I went to the ENT Dr. He stuck the camera tube down my nose into my throat and goes I DON “T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING BUT YOU BETTER STOP IT before you do permanent damage. Spice even affected my kidneys. I wet my pants more than I can remember. I vomited yellow mucus every morning.
    I have been clean now almost 2 years.

    • r

      I very happy that you have remained clean. Could you tell if your medical issues cleared up and if not which ones you still have trouble with. Thank you.

    • distressed sister

      my brother has a serious addiction to k2, its destroying him and his relationship with us, we are all trying to help him get off of it, he’s gotten out of control with it, smokes it every morning before work, i always find ash in the bathroom…today he claim something was hurting, he stated his liver but im sure he means his kidneys, were taking him to the doctor tomro.. how were you able to overcome the addiction?

    • donald johnston

      ive smoked this spice for about two years now and it is totalaly destroyed me i have nothing anymore i have sold all my things for spice i feel like my life wasnt good unless i had spice and today 12 12 13 my chest felt like i was having a heart attack IM DONE WITH THIS FEELING plz people stop smoking it we are the americans we can help each other

      • fatty101

        this guy right here is exactly right……the reason that u are having bad feeling in your chest is that u are having a pnuemothorax (collapsed lung). I had smoked this sh*t for almost five years everyday telling everybody around me that tried to stop me that i was a believer that it was ok and that i would be just fine. I had bad pains in my chest one day along with a shortness of breath i went to my local hopital and had to have an immediate chest tube put through two of my ribs onto my right lung because it was about the size of a peanut. After putting me on suction and pulling my lung out the shut suction off and clamped the tube and then proceeded to pull out my chest tube and sent me home. In under 24 hours i was back in the hospital again because my lung had already recollapsed again in that amount of time. After that it was time for another chest tube in a different spot, both times they done this i was wide awake with a little bit of numbing medicine/the worst pain i have ever experienced. After a week of my second chest tube being in they shut suction off and clamped it again, my lung was down 80% again by the bnext morning. So they had to put me into major surgery and when they went in to put some enzyme around my bad lung and stick it to my chest wall they had to completely remove 15% percent of it because it had blebs everywhere and was black they said it had been collapsed for years in just a small portion and eventually could not take no more of the k2 so it finally went all the way down. They knew what i was doing without me even telling them. This was a one month process. Now i am fighting infection and sickness everyday. This sh*t is no good for your health in anyway or for your ego, everyone needs to take the advice from someone that was into this sh*t deeper than anybody i have ever met and i never thought i would put it down. I also smoked cigarettes i have not smoked any at all since i have gotten out of the hospital along with cigarettes nor will i ever attempt to pick it up again. I missed death by 18 hours and everyone needs to put an end to this sh*t for good! Everywhere!!

  • SmileLOL

    My friend is addicted to this shit hardcore ive been doing alot of research on Spice and K2 whats in it how companies make it BLAH BLAH BLAH. you wouldnt believe some of the shit people use as a solvent for spice kids have had seizures. woken up with bloody noses. and destroyed THEIR LIVES because of a 10$ bag of synthetic garbage. ive tried it acouple of times shit is BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD! Im in the process of trying to intervene against my friends addiction to spice. he missed days of work stopped paying some bills. Lost his car. Sold all of his stuff, just so he could walk up to the store and buy spice. DONT SMOKE IT DONT BUY IT 😉

  • Tracy

    I spent last night in the police station filing a domestic incident report thanks to spice use. My boyfriend of 4 years who has never laid a hand on me, we rarely even argue, smashed my cell phone, shoved me up against a wall, then choked me in the bathroom to the point where I was almost passing out. Last week he tried to convince me he’s an alien. He was smoking Scooby Doo/ Scooby Snacks and WTF spice. It was given to the police and if I ever see him with it again I’ll turn the DIR into an arrest. Stay away from this evil stuff!!

  • belto

    I smoked about 4 years and know I am 5 months clean this shit make me so addicted to the point I was steal money from my wife to get some I use to wake up every night at 12 or 1 am in the morning to smoke and go back to sleep this stuff make me very sick high blood pressure… my lungs and my kidneys hurt every time and I was started thinking that I was losing my mind but after the first month I was feeling better and better and know I feel good as ever everyone need to quit this shit…this stuff is really really bad I never ever going back to this shit

  • RobertM

    My girlfriend took ONE hit of spice when a friend of ours brought it over to try it. while I was fine my girlfriend went into a total panic attack. Something like I never seen before. I wont go into details but it was awful. Soon after she developed a panic disorder and was refered to a neurologist who ordered a CT scan and EEG. Thankfully there was no structural damage but her EEG showed a mild encephalopathy. Now we are waiting for her MRI. Morale of the story? stay away from spice.

  • Scott Farnsworth

    Ive been smoking all kinds of spice for about 4 years now. im currently 5 days clean and ive never felt so great! ill admit i absolutely LOVED the stuff… Except the first couple times because i would freak out , but i just got blood results back i have no damage to kidney and everything in my body is healthy. i geuss its just different for some people.. Still, im not smoking it again since i feel amazing and i can eat regularly and sleep regularly. But yes it is bad. im not saying in anywway you should start smoking the stuff. it will ruin your life ive stolen from family and friends burned many bridges.. Please people dont start a viscous cycle..

  • Jenna

    I smoked 2 blunts of spice all at once for my first time and i ended up blacking out in a random persons yard. The second time I did it i only took one hit and was on the ground being farm animals haha that was a good experience but stay away, it has different effects for everyone !

  • Brook Mabry

    K2 or “spice ” must be stopped. My family has suffered 2 tragedies due to the use of this stuff. I will not stop until it is banned nation wide ! I’ve lost 2 people dear to me and it’s destroying the rest of my family because of what happened. Mr nice guy…. watch out. Your selfish ways have caught up with you.

  • Karen Bell

    pls somebody stop the making, manufacturing and sale of k2, it is extremely bad stuff, i hate it. i wish i knew how to stop it all or how to get ahold of the person/people that are making the stupid crap cause i would give them a piece of my mind in a heartbeat.

  • Tones

    Not a spice user, but I’d imagine that I’ve used a lot more synthetic cannabinoids then any of you people. We’re talking well over 100g of AM-2201, UR-144, AKB-48 and 5F-AKB-48, and I didn’t end up insane as a result of it. The effects vary from person to person, and also depend on whether they’ve been drinking or using other drugs. Most people only end up doing it once or twice, as mentioned in the article, due to the extreme side effects but around 1 in 20 people who try it end up enjoying it. How do I know that? Because I used to hand this stuff out to anyone who wanted to try it for free. Spice alone doesn’t make you go mad, there’s definitely a psychological aspect to any “bad feelings” caused by it. If you read constant news reports about how it’s going to mess you up or kill you or whatever, then when you do smoke it, you’re almost expecting for things to take a turn for the worse. That’s not to say that there are no physical risks involved, but what a lot of you are describing are simple, drug-induced panic attacks. See, I’m sure I’ll get a lot of hate for that, but lets be honest, not a lot of you have any idea what you’re talking about and can barely seem to string together a coherent sentence in the first place. It’s not because of the spice, it’s because you’re unintelligent people in the first place and need something to blame for that lack of intelligence.

    • Grant

      Talking form personal experience, I smoked around 1-2.5g on a daily basis for about a year. Choosing to neglect reading up on side effects, the paranoia and anger were very real emotions, not some placebo effect. Everybody has a latent state of psycho within them, it just takes a certain catalyst to spark that emotion.

    • Shannon

      I smoked this for about a year with no problems. Then the spice pill came out. I took it and immediately felt like I was dying. I called my sister to talk to me and keep me calm but my heart was racing so fast I couldn’t do anything. I ended up going to the emergency room and now suffer from anxiety and panic disorder. I have never had any anxiety or panic issues before until then. I truly believe spice is to blame for my need for anxiolytics and will live with this panic disorder for the rest of my life. Not worth it.

      • prayforit

        a f*ckin pill rlly? I don’t think u ingested a canabanoid.

    • prayforit

      I was doin da same sh*t, pure, atleast 250 300 grams of just pure and other sh*t to. Now im just goin to the local shop to pick up what they call “Black Diamond” and its killing me. Im slowy going crazy, if I stop for a week and start again it feels like ive lost 50 iq points atleast…I think the new compounds are worse, I ran out the day b4 yesterday and praying to never touch it again

  • Saree Haley

    I just started smoking spice and like I like it more than weed and I dont know why I still smoke it after what it has done to my closest friend, who is now recovering. I even did a report about it but the addiction part of my brain was triggered and now I’m becoming a spice head, which isnt good at all. I still smoke it even after I had a really bad trip on magic buzz, and almost went to the hospital for it because my heart was beating rapidly and the messed up part about it was that I was with 2 guys and they left me when I called the ambulance;, but I ran from the ambulance and they never found me. I just hope I dont become addicted….

    • luis

      You need to stop smoking that shit now! before it’s too late.
      Don’t be afraid to seek help the more you wait the harder is going
      to be for you to break the habit. I can speak to you from personal experience-Once you cross the line of no return some of the long term side effects can become irreversible.

  • Cuz22

    My uncle had a heart attack ad died two days ago from smoking MoJo. He had circulation problems already and not knowing mojo spice caused heart problems along with the problems he had already it killed him. Had he not had circulation problems it probably wouldn’t of killed him who knows but it’s too late to worry about it. I just wanted others to have the chance to know if you have heart problems of any kind please do not chance it. It’s not worth it. No high is worth losing your life over

    • blim6969

      sorry to hear this, im replying as i smoked it by being spiked and am not normal anymore, i have heart pains all the time like someone squeezing it, it races fast and hard and i think i have kidney damage, but all the tests i have all show normal, i dont know what to do ???/ any ideas please, any help would be appreciated ? thanks…. DONT USE LEGAL HIGHS, REALLY DANGEROUS TO ANY 1 WHO READS THIS ?

  • Jo Fkadjsa

    If you have an addiction to spice, seek help immediately. I did Spice a couple of times two years ago and I am still experiencing the long term side effects today. What I experience is the side effect of possible disassociation and possibly drug induced psychosis. Its difficult to diagnose because there are so many symptoms. I would never wish this upon anyone else, and I truly hope I get better and all those effected also seek help and get better. Spice is truly dangerous and I’ve learned the hard way.

    • Jay

      What other symptoms did you have ??
      Did it start the day after/ or bad trip you had smoking spice.
      Do you have anxiety/derealization or do you have psychosis in the sense that you don’t understand/or have false beliefs of the world around you.

      • Jo Fkadjsa

        It started the moment I stopped smoking spice and I realized the effects were still there. I smoked spice continuously for a few days. It started the moment I stopped smoking spice. Other symptoms include difference in temperature sensation. For instance, I feel something might be colder/hotter than it actually is. A change in time perception, things may seem a bit slower/faster. I feel like my limbs are not connected to my body but somehow I can still do things and go about my day. I have anxiety, but its not related to the spice. I’ve always had crowd anxiety, not social anxiety.

        • Jay

          Ooo good to know, well I think I have an anxiety disorder and thats what drove me here.

          I only smoked spice 4x in my lifetime and the last time I did it I had a panic attack (but I’ve had them my whole life). After about 8-9 months I was perfect but then I researched permanent effects of spice and thought maybe I had em cause I smoked it a few times. Then I had a crazy panic attack and now I feel derealized (almost all the time) and I see this squiggly silver specks in the sky and all around. Its been like this for a few years and feel like im going psychotic sometimes. But I hear thats normal too (for anxiety) , all in all I think If your able to function and get it out your still doing OK, and that we have to accept it and try to move on. At least thats what im going to go cause I think thats the problem for me at least.

          I dont have any of those time or temp effects just anxiety.

        • Jason

          I feel the same way what can we do to be normal again?

    • Matthew Webb

      I feel the same exact way man its horrible to feel like I feel and like I’ve felt for weeks or a month

    • Chart

      I have a daughter and a mother of two kids on this s==t.She is pissed off at me at this time because i found out about her smoking this and really got onto her bad.Told her if DHR got hold of this she could lose her girls,Come on people is this worth losing your kids??I’m very worried about her and hope she’s strong enough to stop this.Drugs will steal your happiness so i pray all of you out there doing this will stop before it kills you.Get high on life!Not weed!

  • bartkat

    Find a support group like NA. Put that shit down and don’t ever pick up. Then you’ll be recovering.

  • Free

    Look. I started with spice back when it was first making nationwide rounds as a more “legitimate” business. Trust me when I say this, there was a time when “Spice” was in fact a very much more advantageous alternative over weed. This was before the government began banning chemical compositions and the producers of the shit began changing their formulas.

    Now the good stuff was great and for me and the others that tried it with me (because of me) it was better. We preferred it. The effects of the first JWH synthetic blends were that it was a shortlived high (20-45) but it had all the same effects of euphoria in a soothing manner, the way the more “chill” weed tends to be. And because the effects were shortlived, the munchies never really came in and by the time you’d have gotten the food, the high was over and you weren’t really in the mood to eat that nachos bel grande.

    For us, we assumed that it was the future of drugs and this was clever and wonderful and it saved us from having to worry and stress about getting caught buying trees.

    Fast Forward 2 years and you’ve got me in Vegas, a family trip, going through withdrawal as I grow number by the day, literally numb. My friend’s girl on the phone freaking out because my buddy’s in some comatose state where he’s staring into the distance and drooling but not moving or blinking.

    But it doesn’t stop me. Because the moment I get home I light up and I feel relief and stoned, and high, and blank.

    I’ve been addicted to spice for nearly 4 years. There were months of sobriety in the middle with sprinkles of spice free weekends (more likely to be spice dry. painfully dealing with the empty stock).

    Now I’m spice-free. So far it’s been about 6 months.

    Although here’s the thing. I’ve got myself into some tree again. Which would be fine and dandy at my own risk, but, I can’t get high anymore. This stuff makes me act a lot like I did with spice, albeit without the lack of control or zombie mode, and I get the munchies and I get super sleepy. But it doesn’t get me high. Weird.

    • Jason

      Brother I am still suffering and its been like two years since I smoked syn weed the only thing that saved me was going back to the real tree as you say. I would of never touched that stuff if weed would have been legal Now I am paying the price feel like I am loosing my mind brother? And You? how do you feel now?

  • Poppers

    I will begin by saying I do not agree with the way RC chem manufactures have been able to play car and mouse with the FDA and DEA with these synthetic cannabinoids for some time. Even more so I have been very disappointed in seeing so many convienence store owners around the nation willingly selling these incense products to young people who have very little understanding of what these chemicals are and the possible dangerous of using them. That being said a number of these synthetic cannabanoids have great potential to be used to create much safer and much less addictive pain management drugs than the number of opiate derived drugs currently on the market. This is the sad irony of the whole thing as this will destroy the chances of this research being done. It is dangerous and should not be used and abused the way they have. That being said it’s time these products stop being called synthetic marijuana as this is highly misleading to the public. These product share only one common factor with cannabis, that is the fact they effect the cannabinoid receptors within the human body as the pathway to interaction. These are the same receptors cannabis effects but in much different ways. Cannabis is very different from the chemicals both in the chemical make up and the interaction with the receptors in the body. For example cannabis is somewhere around 1000 times less potent then most synthetic cannabinoids and this is what makes the synthetics different in danger and predictability. Cannabis can not kill you and at worst can only cause a light phycosys in some people. The synthetics are so far more powerful that they can quickly cause toxic levels to be reached causeing a number of dangerous side effect such as seizures and heart palpitations. The cannabis plant is a very useful nontoxic tool for treating a wide range of ailments and disease and has suffered a bad name due to political and economical reasons. If you want people to listen and understand this stuff is bad then you have to stop comparing it to a plant that educated people understand is not. The more honest you are the more peoe will trust your voice.

  • Ashley

    Can someone please help me. please read the story im about to tel you right now. One night me and my friends decided to get high. it was the first time we have ever gone to this drug dealer. So we buy it off him then go smoke it at home. We all go puff puff pass about 4 times each. then i stood up and looked in the mirror and everything was hazy. so i realized this has never happened to me before. so i go outside to get some cold air to wake me up because it was the middle of December and it was freezing. so i go outside and i cant feel anything. so i pinch myself and i cant feel it. I start FREAKING OUT. Im crying and sweating in the cold and my heart was pounding so hard and fast i felt like i was going to explode. My friends didn’t feel anything though. After about 10 minutes my friends start feeling the same way i was. they got so scared. we all felt like we were in a dram that we couldn’t escape. So we all went to bed. the next morning i wake up and is till feel like im in a dream i dont know how to describe my feelings but life just doesnt feel rel ever since that night. So did i smoke k2? And do i have a illness called depersonalization? Please help me.

    • dafgooey

      Man, I made a big mistake like this too. I was looking for some weed and my friend hit me up saying he had kush, I thought it was kush like orange kush, real weed. he gets to my house, and I can tell its synthetic. .. stupidly, I smoked it anyway, I took 2-3 hits and I was f*ckin feelin it, it was great. I fell right asleep. the next morning, I woke up, and my heart felt like it was being squeezed, I started panicking and had an anxiety attack, which I had never had before, and it only made it worse, I thought I was going to die… I forced myself to calm down, and it was pretty much OK after that. during the day, for no logical f*cking reason, I smoked it again… idk why the fuck I did. I feel addicted already, like smoking it is the only way to get rid of the negative effects… the high goes away, but then an hour or two later it f*cking comes back full force, I dont know why. honestly a big mistake to have smoked it. I hope if I drink water and detox I can get it out of my system. its scary sh*t.

    • Cynthia Levin

      It doesn’t smell like weed and it doesn’t look like weed. Why would you think it was?

  • Kitkat

    What is the consequence if you get caught “high” on spice?

  • Christian Rhodes

    I got caught with with a vial of spice and a pipe that I used only to smoke spice through. They were too cheap and didn’t bother testing the spice to see if it was indeed listed on the controlled substances list. So they just gave me paraphernalia and court probation. No drug tests or anything. Slap on the wrist.

  • aelisabeth

    i tried spice ONCE because the guy i was with told me it was weed and i only found out afterward. i only took 2 hits and started feeling it in about 30 seconds. it felt like i was dreaming, like nothing was solid and i couldn’t form solid thoughts and had to consciously think about what i had just done or else i’d forget. i walked around trying to feel normal and i was trying to rationalize it like “it’s okay. i’m high. i was sitting on the swing and then i took two hits and i’m high. it’s okay.” but that didn’t work and i just like decided that this was what my life would be like. i was terrified, heart going and i felt like i was going to throw up or cry. it lasted 2.5 hours instead of the 30 minutes the guy told me it would last. i went to this after-school club and can’t even remember any of it.
    that night i woke up in the middle of the night feeling like i was on it again. i was so scared, terrified again, couldn’t sleep for another hour. the waking up happened for three nights in a row. i was seriously considering going to a doctor, but instead i drank a sh*tload of water and thought i had flushed it out.
    meanwhile i did research and realized how bad it was and was so pissed off at the guy.
    i thought i had gotten rid of it all and occasionally i smoke cigarettes but for the past two days i’ve started feeling like i felt in the middle of the night, like i was still on it. it lasts from two minutes to ten minutes. like my heart is being squeezed, i get dizzy, feel like i’m panicking. i haven’t had a cigarette for the past week or so, so maybe that’s it? withdrawal + leftovers? anyway it’s scary. PLEASE do not do spice.

  • Lisa

    Has anyone heard of a type of spice called worm dirt ? I never had till one of my best girlfriends told me she is in love with it more than our drug of choice used to be , she sat in my room and smoked it constantly she stood up and fainted at one point ,scared me to death, her life is all about it now,she sells her body for more ,I’m shocked and it takes a lot to get to me where drugs r concerned,she calls me now an then and needs me I want to come stay with u,a few hours later she can’t b reached at all she does this every other week or so,I’m so totally worried she’s gonna die because she never stops,I’ve been checking into this crap, gonna lose her

  • Wayne

    I use to have a problem with it 3 years ago I was hooked for over a year and smoked god knows how many bowls of it day and nearly stayed high 24/7 except when I was working. One night after I quit for 3 days I had withdrawals and took one hit which sent me on a really bad trip in which my heart was beating so fast I thought I was going to die. So I quit the next day and had panic attacks for over a month after that and hallucinations and random laughing. Of course now the panic attacks have stopped as well as the hallucinations and everything else that came with it.I consider myself lucky everyday because I was an addict on it and it took me just one bad trip to finally realize it wasn’t worth my life. If any of you are on spice you need to stop now before its too late. It almost killed me and I had to overcome the side effects and withdrawals on my own. I know its hard to give it up and you will tell others that if I die on this at least I die happy or you just can’t handle it but I can. Trust me eventually you will reconsider by having a bad trip that nearly kills you or you will end up dying knowing that you could have stopped at anytime and gave your life up for a cheap thrill. .

    • PETER


  • J

    I used to smoke spice every now and then back when it was “good”. The high was a short lived high and it was chill with your friends. This was about 3 years ago. A few months back a friend of mine had some spice he recently purchased and a few of us decided to smoke it. We all smoked out of a little pipe and everyone was done….except for me. I kept smoking more and more of it and the only reason I stopped was because they took it away from me. I’m not going to lie when I say that it was fun (the escape and all) because at first it was fun. My friend didn’t like it and gave the spice he had to me which ended up being almost two packs worth. I kept smoking it every weekend probably once a weekend for a couple weeks. Then I was at home at one point and felt like I was craving the high again so I decided to smoke by myself. I was walking up and down my street smoking. Then I ended up sitting in my driveway smoking more and more and doing this for like 3 days in a row. The last time I did it I went to lay down and felt like I was dying. I don’t really know how to explain it any other way than that. About a week later I went to hang out with another friend at his friend’s house and they were all smoking pot so I went into “f*ck it” mode and decided to join in. I never really smoked much weed so I didn’t build up a tolerance for it, and I have shi**y/pu**y lungs so when I cleared this dude’s bong I felt like I was dying. The only thing I really remember about the high was that I felt like I was in a video game at one point. There was nothing there that should have made me feel this way, it was just kind of how I was seeing everything. I got cold and put my arms inside my jacket and then I remember all of the sudden I started clenching my teeth and couldn’t unclench them. It felt like I was grinding them and I wasn’t sure what was going on. After that I threw up (partly on my shoes and I didn’t realize that till a few days later) and I felt like I was shivering but like really hard. Then I don’t remember anything but waking up in the chair I was in outside and somehow making my way into this guys house to another chair and going to sleep. My friend claims I just had a bad trip, but I’ve heard of people having seizures after using spice and since I smoked a lot (or what I consider to be a lot) I figured that I had a seizure and I’ve been scared to smoke/ingest pot ever since. After I stopped smoking I felt sick to my stomach for a few days was strange. I’m not sure if that had to with smoking so much or what.

    I feel really stupid because I was one of those people who said “oh that will never happen to me” and I feel like it did. I went into all of this while knowing the potential danger/risks and it was just a big mistake I wish I never made. I definitely advise against the use of synthetic cannabinoids/synthetic drugs period because that sh*t will f*ck you up. I read some stories on here after I stopped using it and I’m glad I did because it made me not want to use it even more.

  • j

    My best friend has had multiple seizures since using K2. Last one almost resulted in death. His personality is altered and it’s a wonder we are still friends because his delusions are out of this world.

  • me

    My older sister had an addiction to spice. She couldn’t go two days without it. When ever she did she would lash out at the people around her. I’m happy to say that she no longer uses this dangerous substance and is expecting her second child. 🙂

  • Jason

    I am 42 and ordered the chemicals straight out of Georgis two yeas ago . I have quit it s been about 2 years I am shaky on the inside and can not handle High temps above 85 degrees and I live in south texas I feel like I am loosing my mind. That stuff still haunts me the sad thing is I am a father of 2 and was the main provider now I can barely make it to work. I hold a 6 figure yearly income and I do not know what to do I feel like I am Loosing my mind. Any Help? or does any one feel the same as me?

    • coldturkey

      I’m 41 will b 42 in a few weeks I just stop 6 days ago I no I feel like sh*t I to brake out in heat flashes I start sweating for no reason lost of appetite I use to smoke cigarette too. I just went cold turkey.

    • Britbrat

      Praying! Please never smoke it again. Seek help from any and everyone. Be there for your children, they need you! Take a couple days and isolate yourself and never snoke it again. Just have to get through the withdrawal period. Stay strong.

    • Matthew Webb

      My friend left some in my bong and I though it was weed so I smoked it thought I was going to die and its been about a month and I still feel its made my life miserable I hate being awake its made me feel like I’m losing my mind to I even had a schizophrenic episode and I hear a constant ringing in my ear can anyone please tell me how to fix this

  • Rocker

    Dont touch this stuff….a whole group of friends of mine almost bought the damn farm smoking it…it broke up our band….it sucked the life out of them, sunken eyes, red faces terrible coughs and mood swings, would whip out the pipe in public like it was normal…out of touch with reality…before I witnessed this I tried two hits and thought I was going to die. Paralyzed in my own body and couldnt move, mind racing, eyeballs flickering back and forth, full blown panic attack, thought I would have to call an ambulance…the only relief I got was when I threw up all over the place…never again would I ever put that crap in my body…my friends have since gotten off of it and for that I am thankful…no telling what damage it has done…one of them was coughing up blood and losing sight in one eye….NO THANK YOU…its a shame they even asscoiate this stuff to weed. Weed DO NOT do this.

  • Sam

    A friend of mine died from this crap a month ago from ONE hit..

    • Micah Carey

      Bull sh*t he did!

      • dilly dally

        all this is is a wantas be clever anti marijuana commercial presented to you by corporate Americas elite
        don’t forget to spam my e mail account

  • C

    I tried this stuff yesterday at a party and I had a terrible trip. I am now questioning reality. FML! I hope I am really lucky and my worries and anxiety go away. I don’t intend to ever touch this stuff again. I took like 4 HUGE hits of that stuff…how long will it take for the effects to wear off? 🙁

    • Britbrat

      The effects should be worn off by now! I would never suggest huge hits!

    • Gaio

      I did the same last night. Will never ever do it again the worst feeling in life. My heart its going fast or thats what i think, and feel bugs over my legs mainly stills. 2 big hints only made me like crap. And now its 24 hrs after …

  • Britbrat

    So. I have tried many different types and kinds of fake. To me, they all have their own intensities and highs! When I first tried “Mr. Smiley” in 2009, I had a good trip. I laughed till I pissed myself, and then laughed some more! Didn’t try it again until 2011. My best girl friend and I would get some from her boyfriend’s dad, who bought and sprayed with his own chemicals. That stuff was TRIPPY. I do mot recall any personally bad trips. One day, the same friend (we will call her B) and I were staying at my place and we invited another friend over (she will be T). Well me and B wanted to smoke but didn’t think we had enough so we excused ourselves to the bathroom, where her and I both took a hit. ONE HIT. We laughed so hard. We kust looked in the mirror at ourselves and each other and laugh. Finally, once we get ourselves together, we realize we have more than enough to smoke with our other friend. We get her high and apparently she lied to us and said she’s smoked it before but she hasn’t. This poor girl (T) gets fucked up out of her mind.T just sits in my bed with a dazed look on her face. T keeps just repeating herself and then vomits. Really wasn’t all that bad, just scary for her. Now B and I we stay smoking this stuff for a couple months. At least every weekend and a day or so during the week, and I’d go smoke before school with different friends. I do not remember having bad trips off of the stuff then but what I do remember is everything seemed off even if I wasn’t “high” at that moment. Things were dream like and just life “grossed” me out. At least my skewed views on life from Spice had me grossed out. Even thinking about how our bodies work and the beginnings of the universe grossed me out or things as simple as school or the pair of shoes I was wearing. Well B’s boyfriend ends up moving away so there was the end of that! …So I thought. *To be continued

  • Jennifer Rodriguez

    So I’m just reading all these stories and am happy to say that nothing like what ya have been through haz happened to me. Yeah I’ve smoked, but the main reason I goggled thia is because my boyfriend is addicted to thia bs (k2) and idk what to do or how to stop him. Its becoming so bad that he wants to be doing it all day everyday, he now neglects me and our child. I’ve tried talking to him about it, I’ve cried, I’ve showen him anger. I don’t know what to do to help him, I feel so lost. If anyonee has tips or advice i’d be happy to read em.

    • Pam

      Please get him help! Tell his family..whatever you have to do..but do not stop until he gets help!

    • Deanne

      Jennifer. Please seek help…my son was smoking spice…spice had a fatal ending for my son…one month shy from his 21st birthday ..he went into his brothers gun safe …went outside and sometime in the early morning hours he shot himself in his head…leaving his family with unanswered questions is to why?..we now are on a very painful journey…it’s been 2 years since wr lost my youngest son…the pain of saying goodbye will always be with us…

    • just another face

      the only thing you can do is just be there for him. there are places you can go to get un addicted to this stuff i know a couple that went threw this same thing expect the girl was still pregnant. he went to rehab and in 3 to 4 months was a completely different person, he was the person i knew again. now him and his wife have a beautiful baby boy and live right down the road from my house. But the main thing is he has to want to change and be better or else rehab wont help.

    • TT

      You really need to get him help. When you are smoking it all day everyday it is really hard to come off the withdrawal can possibly kill you alone. My husband was so sick and throwing up blood it is bad a few of his friends were hospitalized because of withdraws. Bud will help him with his withdrawals.

    • shawna

      I’m sad to say I’m in same boat .My husband is so hooked . I just don’t know how to help him

    • Jamie

      Hey I was real bad on it at one time actin the same way well honestly I pray for your man because I was lucky it will eventually catch him the only reason I quit it once u smoke that shit so long you will start throwing up and eating everything eventually he will get tired of getting up throwing up so on so forth it just takes time he is a guy I am too we are hard headed me and my baby momma still together after me having to bing on this stuff I was stealing everything doing everything to get it but eventually k2 will get old the side affects and shit idk really how long he been doing it let me just say last year tax money I remember everyday 10 gas 20 on a bag everyday let me just say I don’t really remember much of that and don’t have nothing to show that shot will grab him just give it time I use to be really bad I mean still 100 dollars of my babe b day money bad like still her moms wedding ring and sell Em just for it like I said I will catch up as far as talking to him keep reminding him u want him to quit when he tells u of the side affects be supportive right now u can hope and pray something catches his attention before it’s too late all it took for me was 3 days withdrawal will start to ease those are his worst days if he doesn’t want to quit getting high find some good loud that gets him good I can still get high off reg but I have been off the shit for a min thank god

    • Noelle

      Same with my boyfriend and we have 2 kids. I need to stop him . This stuff needs to be ban forever!

  • religulous420 .

    If you’re having mental issues due to smoking ANY herbal incenses, quit smoking immediately and stay completely sober for a year. Workout, eat right, and think positive. You’ll recover fully. I’m a neurologist and I’ve personally dealt with long-term addicts.

    • GreenbayPackers

      I took it once and felt fine. The second time I freaked out. My heart raced really fast and i blacked out. It been 3 days and i feel like dazed or in a tunnel vision. What do i do to stop this? How long will it last?

      • religulous420 .

        Its just your nervous system in a slight ‘shock.’ If you take in the correct vitamins/minerals and exercise, your body and mind could recover fully within three months.

        • Golie

          Which are the correct mineral and vitamins? Please im feeling the same. First use. 2 hints

          • Cynthia Levin

            This guy is no ‘neurologist’ he’s bullshitting! Probably sweeps the floor at Dairy Queen at 2:AM.

    • Luis Toro

      Hey bro my name is Luis since your a neurologist I wanted to ask you if you think I’ll fully recover? I only did spice three times but I feel like it damaged my brain. Do you think my brain will heal eventually? I try to eat right and I jog almost every day.

      • Jeremy

        Just stay clean. You should be fine. Clean for 2 years here.

        • Luis Toro

          Really? You think I’ll recover? I’ve been off this stuff for like three years now. My brain still feels messed up. Are you really a neurologist?

          • Jeremy

            No im no professional, i quit and i mainly am normal again now. I was drug enduced skitzo from spice,, now im not.

          • Luis Toro

            Ok that’s good I’m happy for you!!! Hopefully I recover soon!!!

          • Jeremy

            I hope so too. Im pulling for you.

          • Luis Toro

            Thanks brother!

        • Luis Toro

          I bet your not even a real neurologist

  • teajay

    I have just now, in this moment, came to what should have been the simplest and plainest revelation. Spice caused my depression.

  • Max123

    To religious420 I have a son and he smoked that k2 now he can’t move correctly and talk correctly he was normal and now he is just spaceing out stands still and looking just to the floor won’t answer like the time won’t pass please I need help with my some. He was living with the mother and he was fin now that he came from that state to this state when I picked him up totally difrent person nothing like my sone can you help me wat steps can I take is there ant medicine cure?????

    • TT

      Is he coming off spice?

  • mykebeatz

    Everyone that doubts this.. I am a musician a california born kid.. im 23 now. I used to love life, skateboarding to shows to everything in life that makes life life.. especially love… I smoke this stuff in la.. I was in college.. 19 years old.. it has totally changed me. I go to sleep nowadays wondering what side effects will come tomorrow.. while being so pressured.. I seem to have gave up morals that meant so much to me just to feel some type of normal.. I love everyone though still. But please seek help.. things will not be clear.. especially when your angry trust me.. but just cry.. and you will be ok. Im sorry if youve lost someone. Im lucky enough to still be here half alive I would describe it as.. to tell you all n warn. Seek help n help others. Be positive and do what makes you love life. -mychael, chino, ca

  • TT

    I really thought spice was gone. 🙁 I am really sorry to hear about all of your tragedies. I was never a addict myself however my husband was lucky he won his fight with this crap he has been clean for a little over a year. He was a addict for three years. Now that he is clean his nose is bleeding everyday and having sinus problems we don’t have insurance so we can find out what is wrong. Does anyone have any ideas?

  • G

    I just want to know when can I smoke regular weed again it’s been 6 months since I smoked I try smoking regular weed 2 weeks later the same shit happen to me again heart rate

    • Justin

      Man I smoked spice everyday for a year. Changed my life entirely, I can’t even enjoy pot like I used too although I smoke pot everyday, since spice I get a terribly high heart rate. Had a heart attack and severe anxiety attack. I didn’t smoke spice for the high, I did it to trip the fuck out than one day I completely froze time while high on spice. Coulda been for 10 min, coulda been an hour, idk but I was never scared of anything and now my biggest fear in the universe is SPICE. I just tell myself when I’m smoking pot that this won’t kill me unlike spice. It always works for me too. Marijuana saved my life, after what I had experienced on spice i could have easily killed myself to stop reliving that ungodly fear everyday for 3 years now. I think of it constantly but Mary jane was there for me when all else was lost.

  • lauren

    Hi my name is lauren I just smoked k2/spice for the first time. It was just this past weekend and right now, I still feel like today I cant really breathe normally. And I just dont feel myself. Is there anyway that it is still in my system , and is it possible for me to still be feeling something.

    • johnny 6

      Very possible. I’ve smoked spice about 10 times and regret every time I did. I’ve done numerous hardcore drugs just experimenting and none have had the same effects. I haven’t smoked spice in about a week also and I still feel disoriented. Let all family and friends know if you constantly smoke spice you will cut your life short.

  • Matthew

    Names Matthew when you smoke spice it’s not just getting high and feeling all tripped out I’ve had some a now every time I smoke it gets worse and worse per say one called Diablo.. I didn’t know what that was but when I smoked it it felt like I was going to hell. I felt hot from within. Like fire, other feelings like can’t breathe then realizing I forget to breathe, you know you breath naturally but when smoking this it’s like cutting off your brain and the things that helps you breath automatic you know have to remember to breathe or else one second you be gasping for air like you forget to breath. It’s a trippy yet your thoughts what you think it alters your mind and the perspective you look at life.. It’s brought me to a spiritual experience for me. Now it’s just like your messing with the Devils candy and you have no control or power over what happens except for a higher power God I would say having mercy on your soul and letting you go through these things to help you relize this ain’t something to keep doing.. Yet I’m still having problems with this.. I’m still trying to understand the feeling like I analyze it and see what happens.. Not cool but Gods dealing with me on that.

    • 7H

      im right there currently. People this is hands down gonna seal your fate if you get hooked. Im 29 and going through it worse than ever. I work in construction and am almost about to lose my job. I cant function with or without it. And if you go to many hours w/out smoking get ready to have a freaking adrnaline rush and heart rate out of this universe on your first toke. My lips feel numb this 7H

  • Cj

    Ive smoke this stuff like 5 times in my life…like 3 years ago i and a few friends smoked a blunt of it an i was driving an a few mins after we finished smokin it felt like my throat was closing up and my mouth was soooo dry i actually stooped an drank out of a creek… After i went to hospital after hospital noone could ever figure out what was wrong with me i couldnt even swallow food… Its been a few years some days i can eat good some days i cant… My mouth still stays really dry ecspecialy when i wake up an my tongues all numb it really sux i wish this shit was never made..but thank god everyday to be alive

  • Em

    The past 4ish years that I have been smoking weed my dealer has never given me anything that is laced or synthetic or whatever… but recently I started to notice that my bud didn’t have the same effects on me as it always does. Instead, I felt extreme paranoia, my heart felt like it was going to come out of my fucking chest, I was concentrating really hard not to die, loss of consciousness, I was walking hella weird,and I was basically tripping balls. At the time I didn’t know that spice/k2 existed so I was very confused on why this high was much more different then any of the other times…. Until 2 days ago when my dealer’s friend smoked me up and half way through the blunt he told me it was k2 ( I started to get the same weird effects).. so looked it up right away and then I realized why my “weed”( that I have recently been getting) had such different effects on me…. please stay away from that shit, I’m lucky enough to still be alive.

  • stay clean

    this stuff is not good for anyone, I am a professional male and have to give meetings at work, I have been using for about 7 or 8 monthsafter appear at a time I found myself not being able to really conduct myself and express myself in my meetings, it became quite embarrassing and my wife had mentioned to me that you have changed and you are not the same person what’s going on,I have come to my senses and left that crap alone, this stuff is not worth your life and your mental health, take a look at the side effects vomiting, sweats, coughing,is this really worth it no it isn’t I have been clean for two months nowreturning back to normal I do a lot more reading to exercise my mind to get myself back in the right state of mind I will never touch this crap again

    • Noelle

      Thats good for you! Stick with it! Its not worth it. Its changed my boyfriend too, He just doesnt realize it :/

  • rae

    I’ve been smoking the “get real” for about 3 or 4 months now. I loved it, I started smoking it every day. about 3 weeks ago I slipped into a grand mal seizure. my body has not been the same since. I keep puking, shakes, body tremors, Ugh! it’s just as bad as heroin withdrawls! How long does this last?

    • bamboo

      Like a week or so. Try to drink water and at least keep some food down.

  • Bamboo

    I literally smoke spice everyday. I’ve lived in my apartment for like 5 months. And omg its been the worst months of my life. That’s all I do. All day !! I hate it so much bit when Isee it there iI just want to use it. I can’t say no to a hit. Ever. I already spent a night in county for stealing she. I was high. Its horrible

  • Noelle

    My boyfriend is addicted to this stuff. Mind trip, joker, bob marley. Those are just some of the names that they are under. I hate it. It is taking a toll on our relationship. We have two kids and all he does is smoke all day and buy a new bag the next day. Lately hes been buying 10 gram bags. idk what to do. This stuff makes him slow, makes him have very rude remarks, pays no attention to me or his kids. Constantly makes him pass out.Makes him so messy. And think differently. And hes so addicted he wont stop. Hes blowing all of our money. How do we get these places shut down? I know of 2 places around me that has gotten shut down but what can we do to shut down other stores. Ive heard they only sell to a select amount of customers. This is just insane. :/ I really had to vent somewhere.

    • shanta

      Im sorry youre going thru this also.

    • Beenthere

      As someone who put his wife through this shit for two years, I am so sorry, I know what you are going through. 🙁

  • Shanta

    Im 28 and my husband turns 27 next month. I have a 2yr old with him and i have a 8yr old also. This crap is destroying our marriage and ive already stated i want a divorce, whats the point of being married if im always alone. He doesn’t help around the house anymore, he’s high at dinner, 5am before work, on his lunch breaks, after work.he smokes at least 5 blunts. I have never smoked in my life ANYTHING, and this shit is depressing me. The worst smell ever! I.told him if he continued to smoke i’d leave him, which is my plan but he gets so agressive plus hes Hispanic and im black. He has cheated before and blamed spice now hes controlling as hell. we barely talk and he doesn’t even care anymore. Hes gotten to the point that his nose bleeds and sweats like crazy and lies about the nose bleeding. He smokes it so much that its in his pores. My parents even know about his addiction and its embarrassing. Hes prior military, so am i and says he got on it in Africa. But ive had enough. He passes out in his car in the parking lot, his car is full of wrapping cigar paper and ashes. I have only rode in his car once cause its filthy. He has gotten to the point where he blows his check on this stufg and went broke and stole money out the kids piggy bank and my bank card without asking several times. He has completely changed, crazy munchies and just neglects his family. He requests for sex right after he smokes and fets really angry when i say no. But thanks to this crap my marriage will be no more, ill loose my dignity trying to wait on him to change, but he rather sit around and scratch like a junky needing a fix.

    Im sorry for those who are going thru this as well. But no point in being miserable, its time to reclaim our happiness. You are all in my prayers

    -Miserable in Alabama

    • jkat

      I’m so sorry you have to go through this. Your story sounds all too familiar. My ex boyfriend of 3 and a half years sounds like a replica of your husband. Previous military with a 3 year addiction that has made him aggressive, delusional, unmotivated junkie. It is a real problem because this drug takes over a once good, solid responsible person. I’m grateful I didn’t have any children with him but none the less realizing that a person you once knew and cared so much for, has gone down this horrible path. Again I’m so sorry but for your own mental state and the safety of you and your children you have to leave.The crazy behavior will not stop as the drug has modified their way of being and the way they think. You may get glimpses here and there of what he used to be but it may just be to manipulate you to stay.

    • PleaseCallSecurity


    • Feeling lost

      I am in the same place with my husband. He’s addicted and will admit that. He says he will stop and smokes less now….but it’s just to get me off his back. He needs help. He doesn’t think he it’s bad that he smokes. His teeth, tongue and fingers are stained an orange color. He smokes it from a pipe. I told him he needs to move out or stop smoking. He said he’ll move out. Guess the synthetic stuff won. I wish I had him back…..the husband I had before he started smoking.

  • Jake

    Not sure where to start. I have been using Spice for about 4 plus years now. It is indeed what you all say it is – a terrible fucking drug. I am here to give you guys some info on the drug, the real deal on it.

    It can cripple you mentally and physically, make you feel depressed, and just make you feel like an overall piece of shit. It is nothing like Marijuana, it’s more of a crack type high, it only lasts around 20-40 minutes tops, and with every ban or year the chemicals get worse and the highs get more intense and strange. One of the main highs or feelings of the spice product the past year or so has been a nod feeling, and the thing is you don’t see it coming, you may take 2-4 hits and feel buzzed and irie, but if you take 8 hits you might just “nod out” as we call it, that is pretty much just blacking out and waking up 20 minutes later saying WTF Happened? This is common for anyone with experience with Spice. It’s not a fun feeling.

    Doesn’t matter if you buy this online, at a store, make it yourself or whatever, it is bad news. Don’t trust someone just because they say it has legal chemicals or is deemed safe by them.

    Most of the highs that this stuff produces are very toxic and poisonous, it does provide instant euphoria but the high is a panicky high and just not an overall good feeling. And the high is so short lived, you are fiending to re-up every 30 mins to an hour. Also, if you smoke this stuff every day, by about a week of full use your tolerance will be so high you will not be getting high anymore at all and need a break. Let’s not get started on the munchies, it’s insane.

    Another problem is that if you want to go back to real weed, it just doesn’t seem to work very well, like you are smoking a cig. And that feels pretty painful when you drop 120 on a Q. I have taken several month breaks in the past and the marijuana buzz has not returned. I will not be going back to it once I quit the Spice. Just not worth it and replacing one drug with another is fucking stupid.

    This is just a warning to anyone who wants to use Spice – Be careful – It is not what people think it is. It is not Synthetic Pot. It’s Research Chemicals.

    I have quit lately and have not slept in weeks, it’s starting to really worry me. I just lay in bed all night tossing and turning. Will be headed to a doctor soon if I don’t get some good sleep. I feel like its been weeks. The funny thing is I’m not tired and jacked up all day and I haven’t slept in a week or two.

    That is scaring me.

    Goodnight and good luck to anyone using this stuff.

    • tristan…

      Im 4 days clean off this shyyyt nd the withdrawals suck yo, what should i do for them some one plz help..i just want to stay clean for my daughter nd it hurts me daily not b n able to take care of hur,,i just wana cry nd die guys…everythings so intense…

      • kurtis

        Trust me it lasts like 2 weeks max I was addicted for like 2 years and I quit the shit. ya withdraws are fucking horrible I know just hang in there it will all be better in time I promise you that

    • a sad dude

      heckkkk no man i smoked and it has lasted exactly 24 hours. i smoked and my heart went up very fast and i thought it was laced with coke so i eneded up in the emergncy room and all that. i still aint come down from this high and im a REGULAR DAILY smoker.

    • Louis

      Hi Jake,

      I have also had a very bad experience with herbal incense in the past. I can’t tell you how glad I am that I don’t smoke that shit any longer. Spice is NOTHING like marijuana…..It’s a different beast entirely. I have not smoked it in 6 months.

      However, I recently smoked some real weed again which does not get me stoned at all. I’ve been smoking premium bud for a month now…the type of bud ($50 1/8) that gets most people wasted but does absolutely nothing for me… frustrating!!!! The only reason I stopped smoking pot and started smoking spice was to avoid losing my job through a urine drug screen….that was back in 2012. Why do you think pot has no affect on us anymore??? Do you think it has to do with the receptors in our brain??? Just thought I would ask because I’m puzzled and I’m interested in your theory on why this is happening to us.. Let me know if possible. Thanks!

      On a positive note, If I can quite smoking spice…THEN YOU CAN TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Understand this Jake, I was a hardcore addicted to this nasty crap….I would smoke all day long everyday lasting almost 3 years. I thought a I could not live life without it. Remember, Rome was not built in a day….take it step by step and one day at a time. You’ll get there..

      Good luck!!!

  • Shanta

    I meant he turns 28 next month and i turn 29 later in the year.

    But please let this drug go its not worth your life or health.

    Ive seen my husband suffer from and be the following:

    Crazy coughing
    Bloody nose
    Passing out
    Scratching like a crack head
    Will roll it up in school paper or anything that can be lit.
    I swear he is crazy now…. This is not the man i married nor the man who i want to help raise my kids. He will jump on me as well and very agressive.

    -Miserable in Alabama

    • Bad drug

      That’s what I’m going threw with my husband we lost our home because of this stuff I don’t know how to get him to realize he needs help before I loose him to this drug 🙁

  • serina

    Well I know this may sound a bit stupid but I tried spice about 5 to 6 times the first few times just made me feel horrible but for some reason I kept going back to it because the intensity of it was so strangely addicting, even though I felt like shit while doing it I kept doing it. Anyway, the very last time I smoked it I was on the bus (I know, stupid) but I had the same feeling I had every other time but much much worse. It was so bad I can’t even explain the feeling. It was like I was seeing the same thing happen over and over and over again. It was like a déjà vu you could not turn off.I felt like I wanted to pass out right when I got off the bus. I have no idea how I made it home but I did. I came into the house so panicked I didn’t even know what to do. Thank god my sister was there. She came running to my room asking what was wrong and I didn’t even know what to say because I was panicking do much. She said my lips were blue and my face was pale. I don’t remember much I do remember knowing I was gonna die because I couldn’t breath I felt like I was having a minni heart attack. I remember saying to my sister to tell my mom I’m do sorry and I love her. She called the ambulance and they can and I was just laying on my bed crying but still unconscious in a way. They got me up and I soon as I SaT up I threw up. A lot! They put me in the ambulance and I don’t even remember the ride. I just know they put a oxygen mask on me so I can breath better as soon I as got there they were taking blood and putting iv’s in me, they couldn’t even find my vein because of how far in they were from my blood thinning, so they had to but it in my hand. I remember when I started coming down from it, people came to see me but I was so drained I couldn’t even move or talk because I felt like I had no strength left in me. My older sister came to see me and she started crying because she said it looked like I was just dying on the bed. Anyway the hospital told me that if it weren’t for my sister staying home I would have probably died because my blood pressure was sooooooo high and if it weren’t for the iv’s giving me was a horrible experience and still its been one year and I still have problems with my heart because of it. There are times where my heart just starts racing and I feel like I’m gonna pass out. I would say to anyone who reads this please please don’t take the risk its not worth it. Even if you smoke it and you feel fine you’re still causing damage to you’re body that could very much be fatal.

  • Qwerty

    My cousin recently got out of jail and started smoking it, It caused him to have a massive heart attack he passed away last night at 2:30 in the morning its very sad what designer drugs are being pushed towards people especially the youth

  • Qwerty

    He was only 30 he still had his entire life ahead of him my dad took him some pants Tuesday because he didn’t have any pair without holes in them my dad told him to quit doing it, that it would kill him but I guess he just wasn’t listening

    • Jae

      Im so sorry for your loss. I know this comment is a month old but it still pangs my heart. May he rest in peace.

  • nichole

    I smoke spice for the first and last time today. Immediately I got a warm tingle that started at my head and continued down my body. The intensity of the tingle exploded in my mind and body. I felt like I was on fire. Then my heart began to race and my lungs began to feel as if they were shutting down and I couldn’t breathe. I started begging for someone to call an ambulance because I knew I was fixing to die from it. My body started to seize and I passed out. When I came too I had an oxygen mask on that was forcing air into my lungs. I immediately behind to feel better. This whole little episode lasted maybe 5-10 minutes but it felt like hours. It took me over an hour to begin to feel normal. My chest still feels like I’m forcing air into my lungs 11 hours later. My heart rate on a normal day is around 65 beats per minute with an average blood pressure. All day my heart rate has been at a 100 beats per minute with an extremely low blood pressure. This drug is the gateway to a early grave. It is NOTHING like marijuana!!!! I caution anyone thinking of trying this to stay away from it!!!

  • jamesd

    Yeah this sht is truly killing us. It might react with CB’s in the brain but I know its screwing with other crap. Formaldehyde gives the body and head a big high. But its not meant for that. And being illegal let’s black market spray or add other shit. Just cause it makes u high don’t make it a good drug. I’ll spray raid on it and get u high if u want. Ur essentially smoking chemicals. It’s worse burning it because adding flame or heat to the chemicals ur essentially making a different one with different effects then the originals. Im taking chemistry and have takin my baby mama’s spice to test it. I’m scared shtless about how my kids gonna turn out. I have found formaldehyde but very little, cement binders and nail polish remover. Whether these are binders for the chemicals themselves or added after by the next dealer u can’t smoke this sht.

  • PleaseCallSecurity

    If you have high blood pressure, using this will effect you. Your blood pressure will be through the roof, your body will swell and your eyes will build pressure. The drug also makes you smoke it alot, which isn’t good. You will often find yourself in pain while smoking..crazy as shit. It does mess with your bowels too, yes your bowels. Some of this stuff, as soon as you hit it, will make you want to go shit. It has crack head like symptoms too. People on this shit stay up all times of night, will come calling for it all times of night..will search for it in the car at night time if they have none, will smoke dubbies they find and scraps and flakes they come across. People will steal to get it, seriously. People putting this shit before food. The high doesn’t last long, which makes this shit high as hell and even worse, you smoking so much of it. BUD or don’t.

    • Sassy

      I’m with lovebugg… this has destroyed my husband. If he can’t find anywhere to buy it he will put a sock over the vacuum cleaner and vacuum the entire house and trucks and smoke whatever comes out. It’s so sad but I don’t know what to do. If I try to intervene or say anything he gets angry and will disappear for days and come on high on whatever he can find. It is destroying all of his relationships but I stay patient because I love him and I want to see him get help, but until he realizes what it’s doing to him, I just have to be patient.

      • PleaseCallSecurity

        Valium helps take the edge off..but I must be honest, weeing yourself off of it works best, but he has to want to do it. You can be patient with an addict from a distance. You do not have to suffer as if you are on the drug too. Maybe loosing you might make him realize he needs help.

      • Beenthere

        As someone who was addicted to this in the worst way for two years, try to stand by him as long as you can. My wife went through hell and back and I feel like the luckiest person alive that she was strong enough to stick it out. Going on one year clean, it is possible to get away from this. It’s so frustrating from the addicts POV, because they can understand that they are freaking out irrationally for no reason but still get enraged for the silliest stuff. Be strong, I know what shit storm you are going through now emotionally, financially and physically.

  • Julie

    My friend smokes K2 almost everyday for 4 or more years now. between once and a while he gives me a pack and i role a joint for myself, this happened twice. at the first time he gave me a pack it was so fun i smoked for 3 constant days and everything was magical! and now in the second time weird things started to happen. i feel like shit!!!!!!!!!! and the feeling of being numb comes back once and a while. its been 3 days and im scared! my heart hurts it pumps weirdly! i cant sleep! i cant eat! im really scared AND I dont know what to do. if i told my parents theyre gna kill me and if i told my friends theyre gna leave me!

    • Mindy

      Julie sweetie PLEASE talk to your parents… They are the only ones that can stand by you and get you the help that you need. My son was hooked on this stuff and was put on a ventilator in the hospital for a week due to him having seizures… He is no longer doing this but he is still experiencing some episodes of seizure like symptoms and he is going to go to the doctor. You may think your parents are going to kill you but you need to realize that even though they may be upset or hurt or even a little disappointed in you they will see that you really are in need of some help and they WILL help you. I do not know what kind of family life you have but I am hoping that they are loving parents that will be there for you. But hunny if for some reason they are not who you can confide in FIND someone not a friend but an adult that can help get you the help you need. This stuff is so dangerous in so many ways and can lead up to death… PLEASE PLEASE I urge you to reach out to someone a teacher, principal, friends parent, preacher or priest, another family member somebody is out there that is going to care and that love’s you enough to help you through this do not give up and most importantly PRAY, God will help you and see you through this but remember you have to help yourself as well. I will keep you in my prayers and if you EVER need someone to talk with you are more than welcomed to contact me.
      Take care, Mindy

  • Jae

    I have done it twice, exactly. The first time, it was something called ‘Legal Funk’. It lasted about ten minutes, and I spent those minutes swinging on a swing and feeling like God. The second time, it almost made me throw up, gave me a panic attack, and I couldn’t eat or breathe right for days. Just dont do it. My boyfriends mom and her boyfriend do it everyday and they’re so messed up in the head, I don’t think they’ll ever recover. I give them less than five years to live because of how much they smoke. Also, legals smell like hamster bedding and wet vag when its burnt. Disgusting. Throw it away before you kill yourself.

  • josh

    My experience with this drug was due to finding a job that drug tested. I had a friend that did it and told me it was magical, so I tried it. I loved it, it gave me a sensation that I really can’t explain. I inevitably Became a habitual user smoking everyday, I’d get up smoke come down smoke got to work “never smoked at work ” come home smoke until I went to bed, I eventually decided that a gravity bong was the best way to get the best high so that’s all I would use. The side effects would get progressively worse, depression, horrible depression, I couldn’t get to sleep on it, but wouldn’t be able to sleep w/o hitting it. All of my money went to it, sometimes when I would get a really good hit , my skin, “this is the only way I really no how to explain it” would feel fuzzy, kinda like I was rubbing fiberglass but without the pain, and all time I did it, “I always hid it in my closet because I lived at home w/ my mother” I had pulled out my gravity, hit it and was waiting for the ride so I decided I would I would put it all away. When I woke up my mother “who never curses ” was standing over top of me yelling what the fu** are you on what the fu** are you on!! As I came to I remember my pants feeling wet, I had passed out and dumped the gravity bucket all over me, I was laying in my closet unaware of what just happened, I still really don’t know all the details.
    That was the second to last time I ever did it, after I got rid of all my paraphernalia, my friend had some and offered me a hit outta his pipe, I hit it and attempted to drive home being unsuccessful and almost getting in a reck I pulled of to the side of the road and waited about half an hour before a was able to soberly drive home

  • Coty

    I thought I had quit… I thought I had no motivation to start again, too.

    But low and behold, here I am less than 2 months after I quit addicted again. Realizing that all of the horrible physical and mental things going on with me are caused by spice is not something new to me, but it seems that when I’m addicted the spice makes me think of ALL OTHER possibilities, and doesn’t allow me to admit that it’s spice until I come back to websites like this and have clear evidence..

    I had literally convinced myself that I’m crazy, and completely alone (despite a loving girlfriend and family). I self isolate myself, I’m starving but not hungry 20 pounds lighter than normal, hunger pains register as horrible horrible nausea, bad insomnia, when I do sleep I have bizarre and sometimes terrifying dreams, headaches, I feel a lot of anger and anxiety about little things that don’t matter, which makes me feel worse because I don’t want to be anxious or mad about these things. (Things as simple as my girlfriend wearing makeup to school can make me flip my lid, it’s ridiculous.)

    It’s now at a point where I have to announce a second persona when I start to feel it coming on (His name is Fred) so that my girlfriend knows to brace herself and not to take it personally. I feel very seriously out of control. (Not violent, though, just VERY VERY VERY VERY emotional. A lot of crying, a lot of feeling so scared my chest might explode, a lot of punching hard surfaces and whining. But, the biggest thing that gives me anxiety and makes me angry and scared is the thought of my girlfriend leaving me because I’m too unstable for her…

    And eventually, it doesn’t give you an emotional lift anymore. You’re still horribly depressed, you just feel disoriented and very sick when high. First hits make me feel like I’m going to puke quite often. Yet I am still drawn to buy the next bag. It’s horrible.

    But, I’m going to quit. Soon. I’ve done it once before, I can do it again. It’s very difficult to begin to quit, once you quit though it’s done. Unless you’re stupid like me and smoke it again. Once an addict, always an addict. Wish me luck.
    Crossed fingers for no relapse this time!

    Stay away from this drug! It’s a very big bad kind of drug! No anything like weed at all, I would say more of a LSD and Methamphetamine mix. You will have a bad trip on it and feel like you experienced death, even if you didn’t die. You can’t avoid those bad highs, they’re inevitable.


    • Beenthere

      One year here. I will *never* touch it again after using for two years straight. It caused permanent panic attacks and almost ripped my marriage apart and devastated us financially. Good luck man! Please give it your best to quit, I know you know how bad it is first hand, it’s just so damn hard but you have to have the will power! Remember the first 3-4 days are the worst, it starts getting better!

  • PleaseCallSecurity

    I hope very much that your husband can get through this addiction. It can be very horrible and cost hundreds if not thousands of dollars, depending on the smoker. It can also cause holes in the brain, stroke, holes in the heart, enlarged heart, heart attacks, seizures, etc, etc…you never know what is being smoked. If they must smoke, encourage them to find real herbal, natural products that are made for smoking. They can be found on the internet

  • numb

    I first want to say that i fuckn hate this drug it has destroyed my husband he cant stop and every single time he tries to stop its jst gets worst he goes to one bag a day to 3 bags a day now its crazy how this little poison powder could do to you he starts figths for no reason when he has no money to get it he will get the next bag no matter what it takes to get it i wish this drug will disappear for ever!!!!!! it has change the person i fell in love with completely always mad yelling not wanting to do anything specialy when he has nothing to smoke!!! Not for human consumption!!!!

    • Itcangetbetter

      My wife had to deal with almost the exact same thing for two years. She was even writing bad checks just to get me a bag to get me to calm down because the rage and/or sadness when I had none was insane, not to mention I was going through incredible amounts. Please, as long as he is not being physical try to hang in there with him! I know what both of you are going through and trust me, it’s no park in his head right now! He needs you more then ever right now, I know first hand. I am so sorry you are both going through this, it almost ripped my marriage apart. I have been clean for going on a year now and while I still get enraged easily and am still more distant than I used to be, things are slowly returning to normal, however it will be a while before we recovery financially.

    • sadgirl15

      I understand what you are going through I’m dealing with the same thing with my boyfriend. He doesn’t realize how bad it is

  • 15 year old girl

    I’m 15 and I was in Canterbury town last night and a guy offerd me normal looking fag , me and my mate contiued to smoke this , after a while I feel strange &hand felt a numbness rising from my feet upwards , I had dry mouth my neck was cramping, my eyes went funny I was being sick, felt heavy on my feet&I my whole body was twitch I was hospitalised for a night with a increased heart rate

  • Daimon

    I am 18 about to be 19 in may when i was 16 me and my cousin had run out of weed but she had some spice and was like it just like marijuana. little did i know i was about to make the worst mistake of my life. We loaded an entire bowl (a tobacco pipe bowl to be precise) it hit me almost instantly. I felt my electricity was running through my body and i was panicking severely. The main problem is that the panicking and emotional disconnection still follow me to this day and i just feel numb most of the time unless i am having a panic attack. so i plead anyone out there who wants to try this drug, please please don’t do it. i just want my normal life back and now i cannot have it. all because of one bowl

    • Jamie H

      Hi Daimon, I had similar experiences and got my life back using a book called Thrive changing limiting beliefs. Thought you might want to save some time and check it out. Best of Luck

      • Donald Berry

        You are dorks. I been smoking spicr 4 years with no. Crazy crap like this happening. Drugs effect different people, different ways. Ive smoked over 50 different brands w/ no problems! Kids and light weight drug users should stay away. If one bowl messed up your life or kills you, there was most likely some other cause NOT the spice!

        • And you’re an insensitive, ignorant asshole, Donald, for posting something like this on an addiction support site.

          I say “ignorant” because:

          Have you read the 300+ stories posted on this site?

          Have you listened to the thousands of emergency calls made to poison control in 2014, about bad side effects from using spice/k2?

          Have you talked with the families of the dozen young people who died last year due to bad side effects of using spice? many of them first time users? (reported in the news / by authorities)

          Usually, we delete troll posts like yours, because they aren’t constructive and only make suffering people feel worse about themselves.

          But sometimes, the arrogance and stupidity needs to be addressed.

          So, thanks for the opportunity.

          • david

            Donald, if only i could go back, I WOULD HANDCUFF myself to my son. we would eat, sleep, shit, and [email protected]%K together until i knew he was safe. now, i just want him back. He has severely damaged his 20 yr old body and will NEVER recover

        • billy

          Try stopping for two days kids… The drug has you already I’ll pray for you

    • shano

      Its been 4 years for me and im still numb like nothing is inside me.. its like im getting addicted to the panick attacks now.. its totally ruined my life

    • Jessie

      I am heartbroken to hear of your loss of peace which is so very precious. I once lost my peace and barely survived 3 years of anxiety and 1 year of depression. There is only one hope and I’m sharing with you what saved me and it’s your choice to accept or deny but Jesus gave me my peace, joy and life back and I am forever grateful. I feel like you deserve to know there is hope. God bless!

  • sadgirl15

    My boyfriend smokes this spice crap and I can’t get him to stop. He’s the most amazing man when he is not smoking but as soon as he does he is distant and doesn’t want to do anything then his eye roll in his head he falls asleep anywhere in any positition. He talks to himself drools on himself it is so scary and I don’t know what to do. It is pushing me away I don’t want to watch him do this to himself anymore

  • blah

    I’ve smoked spice before but I’m reading the comments and ppl are going through bags a day. It takes me about a week to smoke a bag because when I smoke it I only smoke a pinch at a time and I can go months in between smoking it

    • Xxx

      Yup, but like all other drugs, eventually the use increases to the point your body wakes you up to smoke as soon as it’s wearing of.

  • Soufwess Blacc

    Broke my heart today to see my homie who smokes this shit.,, he is a completely different person. He says he reads minds, thinks people are watching and following him. He says he hears voices, and he says the devil told him me and the other homies want to kill him. His dad and grandma sent him to the crazy house, but he left after a few days. I know my bro needs help, but idk what to do for em…

  • miguel

    Last night was the first time that I tried spice, I was going to the shops to get myself tabbaco and on my way to shops I start smocking it, in couple seconds me and my mate start feeling bare high I couldn’t walk no more I just sat down on the street tryna get better I was bare dizzy my heart was pumping like mad I though to myself this is it I’m dead I start recording every moment on my past, I dunno how I got home I think my friend help me me out I just went straight to bed and I was scared to fall asleep, I live with my girlfriend and her parents and brothers was embarrassing for me that night I was asking them for help cuz I was completely numb but was weird cuz I was constantly moving my feet and hands my girlfriend start crying so do i, I was thinking to myself that was it my life was over I though I was having a heart attack but then I ate some chocolate and drank some milk then fall asleep when I woke up I though was only a dream but my girl said was real today I feel embarrassed cuz of my girlfriends parent they thinking I’m addicted but I’m not I smoke a zoot rarely, I just wanted to try that (legal weed) but I swore to myself I ain’t touch it again I dunno what could happen to me last night

  • Paul

    I was addicted to Spice for well over three years, along with many of my friends. I started when i was about 17. First it ruined my motivation, and then my grades, and then i dropped out of highschool. I quit showing up because in that first year i became so addicted spice was more important than my future. I would do anything to get just one more bag. I was even homeless for a short period around my 18th birthday.

    At that point i moved down to California for a few months to attempt to quit. As soon as i came back home, I was right back on the Spice again, more than ever. At this point i was smoking two $25 bags a day, and i had no money. Don’t ask me how I would pay for it… I begged, borrowed, and stole every dollar I could. Except now that i was a little older, I was a high school dropout and my parents refused to support my addiction.

    Later that year I started to hang out with a very rough crowd, and in exchange for helping out in an orchard down in California, i was payed with a half pound of Marijuana. I immediately returned home and tried to sell it… because i was desperate for spice. I got a bag, got super high, and got pulled over on my way home with all my pot in my car. I was charged with 2 felonies, and was looking at prison time about a month before my 19th birthday. Luckily, I skated (due to the fact that i live in Washington state) on the pot charges and got them dropped down to a misdemeanor. I served 21 days in Whatcom County Jail. I still have a 70 day suspended sentence hanging over my head as well, and have had to pay about $850 in court fees.

    You would think that after I got out of jail I would wise up. I did not. Not an hour after i was out of jail i was smoking spice in the parking lot of an IHOP. My parents agreed to take me back in regardless of my habit… but only if i got a job. I agreed with those terms and got an entry level job. I pride myself on the fact that no matter how bad my addiction was, I NEVER went to work high, or got high when i was there. It was always a before/after work thing. But i continued to smoke at a somewhat reduced rate, only because the price of Spice dropped dramatically. I was able to acquire for $20 what used to cost $50. I continued on my 4+ gram a day habit for the next year.

    About 6 months before my 21st birthday, I started experiencing numbness in my left arm, tightness in my neck and jaw, terrifying chest pains, and an extremely racing heart rate every time i took even a single hit of Spice. That was when I realized that more than just dulling my mind, this stuff was also shortening my lifespan.

    I’ve always been a big cyclist. In this part of the country, it’s a common form of transportation. Although i own a car, i put less than 20 miles on it per week. So i guess you could say i am in very good cardiovascular health. My resting heartrate is about 65bpm. During these episodes, i measured my heart rate three times (because i thought maybe i was just imagining my symptoms) and it peaked at 130 BPM! Luckily i’m a young guy and that’s not quite high enough to cause a heart attack, or I would assuredly be dead now. That was a big wake up call for me, and from that moment on I decided i would be sober. I threw all of my spice in the toilet, smashed my spice pipe and threw away the pieces, and did everything i could to remove the temptation to go buy another bag.

    I know others of you have experienced Spice withdrawals… so you understand what I mean when i say i had no idea what was going to happen to me. I had had cravings before… and the crazy psychotic moodswings and depression the instant i ran out… but i was literally bedridden. I had to call in for two days at work and almost got fired. I had a low grade fever (about 100 degrees on the dot) some pretty intense bone and muscle pain, cold sweats, tingling in my extremities, and a horrible sense of agitation/restlessness, without any motivation to actually do anything. I flopped around for a couple days and sweated my way through a couple sets of sheets, but when I woke up on the third day my mind felt amazingly clear.

    It’s been 9 months since then, and while i do now smoke Cannabis (I can’t deny that i’m substituting it for Spice, but most would agree it’s a cheaper, more healthy alternative) and the difference in my quality of life is pretty amazing. I’m smarter, more active, have better luck with the ladies, and don’t just want to sit in my room getting high until i pass out and drool all over myself. But I will never be able to escape the permanent physical and emotional scars of my addiction. My relationship with my friends and loved ones will never be the same. The will always see me as a dirty spice tweaker, even though i’ve turned my life around completely. And i understand that, because i made my own mistakes.

    My biggest worry is the fact that I have now developed angina (at the age of 21). The symptoms are very minor and the pain is inconsequential, but I have definitely done permanent damage to the outer wall of my heart, resulting in a small amount of inflammation. My doctor has stated that while it should never cause a decrease in the quality of my life, or limit my lifespan, i can also never undo that damage. As somebody who takes pride on living a very active lifestyle, i now have chest pains every time i am exerting myself (especially biking) for a long period of time that will always remind me of the bad choices I made in my life.

    All i can say to anybody that is currently addicted to Spice, is to consider the damage it may be doing to your cardiovascular system. A couple people tried to warn me, and I called them paranoid.

    Thanks for reading my very long story and please avoid my mistakes!

  • david

    hello…it’s 3:20 am & i am up, worried sick about my son. At this moment he is hospitalized after poisoning himself smoking this spice shit. We noticed a change in him about the time he graduated high school. He had worked after school and summers, had a 4X4 truck that he paid for, very popular, and just a wonderful kid. I could talk to him about anything. Never did we catch him out of place or have any trouble with his behavior. If he went to a party, or with friends, he either called or told me the next day if there had been pot or drinking; and if he had smoked or drank. We were very open about things, because we all knew there was no way to get around being exposed to drugs and such as he became an adult. My greatest fear was METH. I new first hand what it does to the user, and the family.
    BUT FUCKING SPICE, OR WHATEVER they call it, we had no idea what it was or any clue about where it came from. Sure, he at first was offered the SHIT by some of his friends. However, I don’t blame them. No matter how,who, or when he tried it, the fact is he has damaged his body and I fear will never fully recover.
    The past 5 months, he has wrecked and TOTALLY destroyed 4 vehicles he was driving, 2 more he hit, 1 head on. 2 DUIs OTHER, 6 weeks in re-hab, spent ALL his money, sold EVERYTHING he use to enjoy so much. (hunting guns, four wheeler, IPAD, jewelry, CLOTHES, and God knows what else)
    But none of that matters, not to me. I just want him back as my son. Admitted 4 days ago, his urine was UNBELIEVABLE. He had several seizures, had lost 43 lbs in a few weeks. I cannot describe his mental state. It’s like a NIGHTMARE we cannot wake from. The report i get from doctors is that he may never be able to work, he has muscle DAMAGE from SEVERE dehydration that is irreversible. His kidneys may also be damaged and mentally, i am afraid his brain has suffered as well.
    At LEAST 50 persons, as young as 14, have been hospitalized over last two weeks with simullar problems. One death reported.
    HOW MANY must suffer this tragedy? What can We DO? IS THERE AN ANSWER? I DO NOT KNOW WHAT WE COULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENT to protect our son. I THOUGHT we had it all covered. I WATCHED and STAYED involved with him. i took him and friends on fishing trips. THOUGHT I KNEW ALL THE SIGNS. WE were happy and satisfied he would enjoy the BRIGHT future he had. My heart has been ripped out.
    I VOLUNTEER TO JOIN ANY GROUP that has a feasible solution. I do not know where to begin STOPPING this POISON….. BUT I WILL GO ALL IN IF SOMEONE CAN lead me to the answer.

    • How are things now? Is your son doing better?

    • Xxx

      The best solution is to make people aware of this epidemic. The only thing legislation is going to be able to do is 1. Legalize recreational use of marijuana cause the number one reason people pick up k2 is to pass urine testing. And 2. Make marijuana more affordable cause now with these thc dabs/wax and high grade strands of buds, weed is quickly becoming a “rich man’s high”. Originally smoked k2 cause I was on state parole, but my most recent relapse with k2 came because I simply could not afford the marijuana. But I got a bad batch this last time, lost my mind, am withdrawing, and it was so bad to the point that intoxication of ANY KIND is disgusting to me after almost a week unable to understand my own thoughts, sober and feeling normal is the high I’m chasing now and can’t get

  • Zack

    As I am reading these comments , I can clearly see how this drug can affect so many people in such Harvish ways. In my point of view, synthetic marijuana is not addicting if your mind is more powerful then the drug is but it does fuck with your you regardless. For example, Ive ben an active runner for the last 3 months. I run everyday just to feel in good health. Recently I bought 10 Dolores for two little baggies of spice and I clearly saw the whole side affects this drug does. First hit was an imidatly intense high making me feel Good and not that bad trip everybody talks about but because for some reason I have a good control of my mind and I don’t let that badtrip kik in. Anyhow, after a while of taking small puffs throughout the day, it finally came time for my run. I felt like I had no motivation, I felt lazy and restless but I still went for it.Trust me it felt like the longest and most tiring run in the last 3 months sortoff like if I was just starting to run from day 1. Horrible , I felt very out of shape and with no condition or what’s so ever. Imidiamtly I was aware that it was the spice id ben consuming in the last hrs before my exercise. It’s not worth it. Stay healthy and the feeling is much better(:

  • cody

    I would also see things. I was never addicted but my best friend got bad into it. My friend made the decision to quit smoking cause he was getting addicted and i was really scared for him. He would come to my house after he smoked and just make noises. That shit was hilarious but it startled me. His brother found him rolling around on the floor and drooling on himself the other day. Ive experienced a very bad trip. Ive thougjt people were with me when i literally just tool the hit and no one was with me. Spice is no good. Please dont go down theath my friend chose. It Will. Ruin ur life.

  • Liz D

    My husband has been smoking kush for a few years. At first it was ok. He was functioning. But then the side effects took an ugly turn. He would lock himself in the laundry room and smoke every night. He would pass out in the chair, talk to himself, couldnt walk or talk right, couldnt light a cig,..he basically couldnt function. This would take place every night. He quit after our son was born and things were great. Recently he started smoking again…and its back to passing out, not making sense, cant walk, its hell all over again…i know the person he could be. And it kills me to see him this way again. He went through a terrible withdrawal and made it out ok. And now we are here all over again. I feel so alone. Its hard raising two kids…and feeling alone. He smokes after they go to bed so there is no interaction with us. I have to help him.

    • disqus_UFmAUTwuOm

      I think you and I are in the same boat. I don’t know how to help him… he needs to somehow get his eyes opened a genuinely want the help.. very frustrating. He does it throughout the day, as soon as he gets home he gets into bed, Fall’s asleep within 5 min then has a 30 min nap, 1 min hit cycle going pretty much all night. To me it smells nasty and when he gets it on his fingers that nasty smelling stuff is every where. ..

      Have you been able to get through to him again? I am assuming you got through him at least once, when he was going through withdrawals?

      • Liz D

        Ive tried but he makes excuses. It doesnt help when his best friend lives across the street and smokes too. But it doesnt make him pass out like it does my husband. Yesterday was my 30th bday…it was great until he gets home smokes and passes out sitting in the chair outside. I woke him up and he staggered over to the couch and thats where he stayed the rest of the night. I layed down on the floor next to the couch and went to sleep. I didnt want to sleep alone i guess. I dont know. Maybe he will quit again on his own.

        • jolena68

          My son is the same way! His best friend is enabling him. He doesn’t care about his family, himself or his child on the way. I’m heartbroken

  • Heartbroken

    My best friends little brother smoked it yesterday and after being taken to re he became unresponsive and died. He was a nice person and his family and friends loved him. I’ve known him most of my life and now his kid will grow up without a father. Please, don’t do it

  • Icajunebug

    My husband got on this shit and it killed him… it was awful to watch what it did to him on a daily basis… I would find him in the garage in the middle of the night needing a hit or 2 that’s how bad it got… he did have an addictive personality and did have drug problems off and on… but when this got ahold of him it was worse them meth… he couldn’t stop… I watched his physical appearance change, his personality, everything… at first I would talk to him about it, that didn’t work, I got mad at him that didn’t work which usually he couldn’t stand me being mad… but to him it was like a joke… he was never like that… finally I just shut up and stayed away from him… I had no idea until I read this that it can put suicide thoughts in a persons head… the cops believe his body just gave out… after all that I seen his body go through it makes me wonder… when he was on this shit he couldn’t function, talk nor did he have a clear head ever… nothing matter… sometimes everything seemed funny other times he just mumble and wandered around… after what I have read I know it was this that did him in… he had been clean for months except for this shit… it’s like nothing I have seen before… its just awful

    • Help4Love

      My husband is doing just the same exact thing, he wanders aimlessly around the neighborhood, sometimes not even knowing where he is and we have been in the same neighborhood 5 years! He talks about how he would rather be dead, and killing me for letting some guy in our home and having him jump out the window, it’s crazy!! He sees things that aren’t there, mumbles things, he can’t even string together a full sentence at most times. He is now puking up yellow stuff and hasn’t eaten in 3 days! I am so sorry for your loss, this spice stuff is the devil. I don’t want to see my husband die.

      • CJ

        Im 22 yrs old.. Smoked for 4 months… All types of spices… Monster.. Scooby.. Mr nice guy whatver…. U said ur husband pukes yellow stuff.. Thats normal becuz, after puking a lot there is nothing in the stomach and yellow “stuff” comes…happened to me as well.. In 2 days i throw up 30 times… After couple time yellow stuff come out cuz stomach is empty but u still wanna throw up…after puke i start sweat like animal… After sweat, shaking.. After shaking, hard to breathe … Very hard… I felt like it was my last breathe… Hope ur husband will get bettter soon … But u should put all ur power to make him quit this shit!

  • torrance T

    to be honest i am having a hard time believing some of these stories however if they are true my condolences for anyone who has lost a loved friend or family member due to this stuff, i will say however this material is primarily a staple for those who are tested(people on probation/parolees, military, employment etc) i know for a fact recently the military can test for it because they absolutely want no substance abuse, and some state probation boards have gotten a hold of the same tests, they are urine cup tests that claim to test for “k2” and have a wide spectrum that test urine for many varieties of the chemical that are often sold in potpourri laced incense as spice..i was one of these guys once, i lived in a halfway house finishing prison time before back when spice was basically legal before the analogue act, although im sure your probation officer is the last person you would want to tell about using anything thats similar to a tested drug…since we were drug tested very often and breathalyzed just about every day anyone that liked smoking marjuannnna was very tempted to switch over to spice or at least try it and it was at times out of control, even a couple people lost there sanity and got hospitalized, the facility didnt even allow smoking on the premises so many people spent there “job search” time acquiring this stuff or using it out of the facility some people even lost there mind out of the facility and couldnt even make it home on time…i personally never found a liking to it, the first formula felt very similar to marijuuuuana but later got banned and it just turned into a chemical trail mix of newly synthesized chemicals that were never the same…often times i tried it on some occasions on probation i never found a liking to it even though i knew i could use this substance and as long as i kept my mouth shut it wouldnt be tested for and this was about 4+ years ago…and just feeling the overwhelming buzz spice would give me, i personally made the choice to give up on spice, another main reason because it falls under the “research chemical” category which means this is a substance that was barely created within 5-10 years, nobody knows what 5-10 or more years of use/abuse of this chemical will do to a human being, even its original creator j w huffman said not to smoke it….its been very well known and around for about 6+ years now even after making it illegal many can still find it…some people still think its untested for and are found very wrong and ive heard stories of people getting caught, many of those are people on probation in certain counties that can test for it…and it just shows extra guilt because they are using a substance which was originally untested for thinking they would get away from it….more over stay clean everybody especially from these substances and anything that falls under the “research chemical” guideline because you are basically a guinea pig and you definitely don’t want to be the example telling others not to do it 10 years later after your 10 years of living proof of using/abusing, if you need medication see your doctor get a real prescription after getting professional advice and knowing the side effects, if you need medicinal marijuana that’s up for debate in my own opinion i personally don’t see a problem with it if you are not employed in certain jobs where peoples lives could be at risk, its obvious if you were a supervisor or boss many would employ a non-user over a user any day. anyways stay clean everyone, i am no greater then anyone i am an addict and still am whether im days, months, or years clean, but I will say the more clean time i have the more clarity i feel, and with more clarity i can function as a much better person in society…- t

  • wkw4l

    Okay, first off, I have no idea what most of u people are actually smoking because I have smoked k2 for a year and the worst symptom I’ve had was a very slight hallucination. It’s almost as if the k2 u guys are smoking was laced with meth.. I mean literally I was going through these comments and considered it to be a joke… being addicted to it? it’s possible. but not being able to talk, walk, or really do anything is slight bs. the k2 high is only a little different from marijuana, so u people are smoking laced k2. I rarely smoke k2, because I prefer the natural weed.

    • Happy to hear you haven’t suffered. But these side effects are very real. There’s plenty of hard data to back up the stories you’ve read here.

      For example, calls to poison control & ER admissions for synthetic cannabinoids have skyrocketed in 2015:

    • torrance T

      to be honest the original formula wasn’t extremely harmful compared to whatever new chemical there using now but this page isn’t for glorifying that you had a different chemical that was potentially less harmful, “K2” is just a shelf name it isn’t made by any FDA approved manufacturer so pretty much the point is anything sold as synthetic marijuana/spice and any other flashy vacuum bag or container of product with glamorizing some potpourri concoction as “incense” “not for human consumption” and usually the famous disclaimer “does not contain XXX” which means it probably doesn’t have previous illegal spice chemicals but possibly a newer one, and many other research chemicals can be amphetamine based there are new chemicals coming out all of the time…any former and newer synthetic chemical that is promoted to target your cannabinoid receptors and mimic marijuaaaana is illegal just like every other mind altering synthetic research chemical it falls under the federal analogue act, this product is basically sold in secrecy now, usually by smoke shops that have it not in plain view to its well known clients or online…obviously natural things are better then synthetic and marijuana use is up for debate and shouldn’t be promoted on a page for recovery either. I will say many who use this are more drawn to it based on my previous post because they are tested, cannot use drugs without a prescription or marijuanna period, my PO didn’t care if i had a prescription 100% no marijuaaana for me and even as attractive as spice sounded as a “untestable alternative” I tried it from the start till around the time it changed chemicals and honestly with some trial and error, some relapse etc knowing that staying as sober as possible would get me the best results, and i immediately noticed how lazy/dysfunctional spice would make me first hand even it being untestable wasn’t a reason for me to use it for a cheap easy similar high that i could get away with my body and ability to function did not feel right…but yes as i was stating from my view i see many who are trying to hide from drug tests suffer the most from abusing this drug and its really sad….

    • jolena68

      That’s you but everyone is different! You have no idea what’s in each batch I have seen my loved one so out of it from this stuff and a friend’s son died after smoking it. The only bs here is your glorifying this crap

      • Help4Love

        My husband is now smoking it and I can’t understand why. I myself am an avid pot smoker and so is he, bit he meet some new ppl and now smoke with them in a filthy house with no running water and when I finally got a straight answer as to where he was and picked him up the spice smell on his body was so strong, there was a guy on the floor passed out with dog poo literally right behind his head, another guy sitting in a daze drooling on himself, a girl laying in a filthy bed with no sheets and in her own urine. He isn’t himself anymore and it’s killing me inside I don’t know what to do or how to help him. He didn’t even know where he was or how he got there. Just 2 days ago we moved into a better neighborhood and when I finally got him home last night he never even remembered being there, as if I moved there by myself. He found his beer in the fridge from the night before and started trying to beat me and accused me of it belonging to someone else. He was in a bad psychotic episode and it’s scaring the hell out of me, we have a baby on the way and I have never seen him like this before. You know that crazy guy on the corner who looks at the sky and talks to himself and screams at ppl that aren’t there, well that is what he is becoming. Any suggestions as to how I can help him please help me, he talks about suicide, and killing me all the time since he has been smoking it. I’m scared!

    • missmybrother

      My brother died 2 months ago from spice. He was 20 years old. The batch he smoked had 14 toxic substances in it according to the autopsy. This drug is deadly. I pray you never get a “bad” batch like he did.

      • Bless you for warning others. Keep it up. You will save lives. I pray you are surrounded with love and comfort to deal with your loss.

      • Luis Toro

        I’m so sorry to hear that this drug is garbage. Unbelievable how much it’s harming people and destroying lives.

    • Anon

      I smoked k2 for three years and didn’t think anything was wrong with me. My lungs were extremely close to collapsing and I am lucky to be alive today. If you want to talk shit because you like k2, obviously you should not be on this page for people LOOKING FOR HELP for ADDICTION. Dumbshit.

      • chasity

        My lung did collapse lol n they keep trying to I get spontaneous pheumothorax all the time. N I was diagosed with copd n emphysema also I’m to young for this crap

      • William Ruby

        I had a similar situation. My lungs got so inflamed and swollen from constant use ( I’m asthmatic ) it was pushing against my heart causing mini heart attacks, populations, and causing my heart to stop. Glad your better now 🙂

    • Please be kind to your body

      After six months of smoking close to 9. I watched my brother go into bat shit crazy mode, I thought he was going to die, the strand that we had was listed over 17 toxic chem’s and note they use acetone to lace it with. I personally started becoming effected myself, experiencing panic anxiety attacks for a few years now. As of this last year they went from small seizures to full clonic-tonic. This stuff is damaging whether it be short term effects or long term….rethink your actions please.

    • chasity

      No its not a joke.. i smoked this shit for 5 yrs n yes I wud get were I cudnt walk or talk also. It wasn’t k2. It was shit like anonymous. Get real. Mr nice guy. Scooba snax.. platinum KUSH 10x. U name it I smoked it.

    • William Ruby

      I understand where your coming from. To be honest. If I hadnt experienced the addiction of k2 I would also think what your thinking. A lot of this sounds so fucked up and twisted that theres no way it can be true. But it is my friend. First hand experience 2 year addiction. Smoked it everyday all day and all night constantly. Smoked 9 bowls of k2 back to back out of a beaded percolated bong, then it was like I was stuck on stupid. I couldnt take a breath in. Like I had forgotten or something. I was suffocating in result of it. My vision was fading ( tunnel vision ) and with my last breath I looked over at my ( now ex ) wife and said ” just remember I’ll always love you ” I thought I was going to die. But nope. Turns out I had a seizure instead. Woke up so sore, confused, and covered in blood ( came out my nose ) just thought id share that with you. Believe it or not. Your choice. 🙂

    • megan

      Not fake! I had the same mind frame about it as you smoked it on and off for a year. Love weed, but random tests made me want to try. It was awesome at first. Then you want more and more. Than more. The first bad thing that happened was i couldnt remember anything about me. Whats my job? Do I have a kid? (I do but dont when he was around. At first) ok that was scary but only lasted a half hour or so. Weeks months go by, now smoking in my room for a minute and then back out tp help with homework, dinner, ya know daily life. The spice was always different brands k2, keysha cole, zoink etc. The last time i smoked was this past sunday afternoon. Then i started with the shakes and wasnt hungry for dinner? Weird-i like to eat. Tired all the time. Hard to put words together. Then throwing up, and diarrhea. I didnt eat anything so it was luch or something. Hot and cold like the flu sweating like buckets. My hair was wet. So i took a shower everything feels weird like mu skin is numb. And slippery like i couldnt get the soap off me. Cant walk straight like will bump into corners and shit. Sleep? Ha up everey half hour those two nights last night i still woke up ten times either hot cold or shivering or to puke not that anything comes out besides bile. So monday ice chips, couldn’t keep water down. Yesterday tried toast revolting spit it out has no taste and feels dry and alien, got some water too. So today is Wednesday. Today i actually ate applesauce, plenty of water and gatorade. It is slowly getting better everyday. Very slowly. Still have uneasy sromach threw up a little at work i acactually WENT today. I work outside. Barely did anything. Yeah no flavors in my mouth yet. Panic attacks mood swings. I thought of suicide. So i am telling everyone. I would rather lose my job be homeless in alaska then ever go threw this again. This is still a newer product, their might be long term health problems. And this is coming from some who drinks guys under the table, weed all day tried extacy, coke shrooms, acid, all that a pleanty in my younger years. Im saying i like to get crazy. But not this they dont even care what they put in it. They just making money is all. Do you believe me?

    • Robert Hunt

      Keep smoking it eventually you will get a bad batch just hope it don’t kill ya.

    • Xxx

      It’s no bullshit… you just haven’t got the worst ones. Thought the same thing till last week

  • Mentally Gone

    Please everyone listen. I was a first hand spice smoker for about 6 months years ago in high school. I smoked about a gram a week for 6 months. I had some cool trips and some bad trips as well. I know young people think older people don’t know what they are talking about, I thought the same thing when I was a teen. I wish teens would just listen to the adults that know whats best for them. I was one of those that found out the hard way and didn’t listen. Teens reading listen! Don’t do drugs! I’m an emotional wreck and have been clean for 4 years. First hand experience it’s not worth the high! I thought I was different because I felt so good on weed and most of the time on spice and that I wouldn’t get the bad effects of drugs. I was wrong! The scariest thing about it is knowing what you did wrong, knowing you shouldn’t of done it, and knowing it’s to late to change; basically your fucked! The devil has many ways of tricking us and when reality sets back in when you become sober it’s like a living nightmare every single day of your life! I’m telling you all I would kill to be a teen again and turn down the blunt, pipe your whatever. But like I said it’s too late now! I know others know what I am talking about, it’s like you know inside that person you where before you started drugs is gone forever and will never come back. Your whole perception changes even after quitting for years. God has helped me tremendously though with out him I would have killed my self long ago, but the world we live in is a sin filled world and when you make mistakes like drugs, God will only help you so much. The pain is there, the sadness is there, the anxiety is there, and never goes away. Think out your choices everyone its not worth it!!!!!!! Really the only sense of personal gratification I get out of life anymore is help young people get on the right path and stay on it from the start so they don’t have to suffer like the people that gave in to drugs. I have talked at alternative schools with troubled teens ( one of which I went too ) and it makes me feel good inside that i may have helped someone stop drugs or never begin drugs. It also makes me happy those people that listen will never have to experience the devil”s demons in your head that drugs bring. I actually have images in my head of demons and the devil it’s horrible scary stuff I can’t understand why it won’t go away I quit long ago and have been leading a righteous life, it’s like God is punishing me for doing drugs and all the horrible things doing drugs bring (crime) I just pray to God he will have mercy on my soul and forgive me, that’s all I care about. Remember everyone this life is only temporary! Jesus Christ died for all our sins! Remember this world is sinful we live in and it’s not easy, life is hard. But what better gift and feeling can one receive than knowing your sins our forgiven by the shedding of Jesus Christ’s Innocent blood. You are saved! It’s up to you to believe what Jesus has done for you. The devil prowls around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour. Jesus says the gates of hell are wide open to the unbelievers. Just please everyone reading don’t do drugs, and worship and believe in the only God, Jesus!

    • e

      Thank you for sharing your story! I’m going thru a similar situation with my boyfriend. He has been smoking for a while and can’t seem to quit.

    • Indii22

      Is there a way we can email? I have a baby sister going through this and I believe addicted.. I would love for you to help us. [email protected] this is my email..

    • mom2mkld

      My son smoked spice and was psychotic for a month at one time. He later became a Christian and I was so happy. But, that spice — it seems that it really messed up his mind. He is very paranoid and not himself. He wants to serve God, yet he only sleeps most the time and does little with his time. It seems the spice messed up his thinking. I pray that it will all get out of his system so he can live a normal life. He doesn’t thing he’s different, he won’t admit it, but he is very different and often delusional in his thinking, and there is no reasoning with him. Does this last forever or can you eventually be free from this stuff?

  • Chris

    I’ve smoked k2 in the past, the last time being in 2012. Being a regular pot smoker I would buy k2 when the town was dry. I had some slight side effects at first, increased paranoia, anxiety, etc. but the last time I smoked it, I laid down, trying to nap, and within a minute or two, I sat up and projectile vomited. That was the last time. That shit is the devil.

  • jolena68

    I have s loved one who is in active addiction to this stuff getting help for them is a nightmare.

    • Anon

      My husband and his brother are addicted to it and this is probably the hardest thing that I have EVER had to deal with. He isn’t even the same person.

  • Logan

    I have to agree with you on this I’ve been smoking it for about 3 years totthe tune of five to ten grams a day! Although I’m still smoking it I know it’s the devil and is killing me. I wake up every hour, I have a persistent cough with brown phlegm, suicidal, family and personal relationships are strained, no motivation, and much much more! I have quit several times and still struggle daily! Please if you can stay away from this stuff don’t make my mistake as it will probably soon kill me and I know it!

  • Ray

    im only 15 and ive been smokin this fufu crap for about 2 months and i dont remember half of it. i used to smoke about a bag a day (10g). i started smoking it cuz i got on felony papers and i still wanted to get high.This shit messed me up i started sluring could not talk right or wlak right either. i watched my Homeboy who was like a brother to me smoke two bags 20g and threw up blood and fell and died i was sacred shitless! PLEASE STOP SMOKING THIS FUFU SHIT JUST SMOKE REAL WEED ! weeed and fake stay in ur body the same amount of time

  • missmybrother

    My brother died from spice 2 months ago. Please, this is not a joke, DO NOT think in anyway it is safe! My baby brother was just 20 years old. I miss him everyday!

  • I understand

    went thru the same thing since 2011-2015 with panic attacks of that level only to increase over the years, Just to develop into seizures this last year now. With nothing to trace wrong with me besides the irregular focal activity. doctors would just med me up and send me on my way. But recently trying to lower my estrogen base levels as well for it being possibly related to the seizures. Just wondering if theres others out there like us? 🙂

  • There’sHelpAndHope

    A big help I found with helping with the long-term side effects of smoking this stuff Is CBD it’s a Cannabidiol and has helped many. Please do your research help is out there instead of big pharma.

    • Andre

      Where does one find this

  • Brianna Shantel

    If you only smoked it once & let’s say I’m 14 …will I have birth defects in my future kids???? Someone plz tell me!! I’m scared

    • If you keep smoking it, you won’t live long enough to have kids at all.

  • Jamar

    I am only 12. I have smoked over 90g in like 1 month. But then, the last time I smoked it, it fucked me up. It was fucking me over. I thought I was dying I was seeing shit, having mini seizures, uncontrollable crying, and worrying over nothing. It scared the shit out of my. It’s a miracle I’m still here. Don’t EVER make the mistake I made. NeVER smoke this shit.

  • William Ruby

    Just calm down. Relaxe 🙂 I was heavily addicted for 2 years also. 10+ grams a day. I’m glad you quit smoking spice. In my opinion alcohol is way better than spice. And for the panic attacks and the dying of a horrible doom… its alright. Its something that comes with being bipolar. I myself have rapid cycling bipolar. Have faith

  • sorrynotsorry

    My boyfriend is going thru this . Sweating vomiting loss of appetite shivering hot one min cold the next. I don’t know what to do..???

    • shamus

      He needs help and quick. My stepson is in a medically induced coma, intubated (on ventilator), kidney failure, doc says he may not make it.

  • Danni Skrux McBride

    You see I have two friends both use spice and it’s killing them date 17/06/2015 I was sent a pic of one friends stomach her intestines have no ridges we are opening a centre to solely deal with misuse we are on Facebook out reach UK

    • Jay

      I smoked spice last night for the second time, I had less than half a Rizla paper mixed with tobacco, after 4 minutes, while sat down my stomach started to bulge and pulsate and balloon, i started panicking so I stood up and started pacing up and down ten metres back and forth panting as heavy as i could to try and stay alive. I wondered if my stomach would burst or if i would simply pass out. It was real, my stomach from just below my solar plexus was expanding all the way down to my waist as i were pregnant but i’m a man. Gladly after another 10 minutes the symptoms seemed to be lessening and i was relieved, but i know however that I have done myself lasting damage as my muscles have expanded and stretched in that area. after another ten minutes when back inside and in my room examining my stomach in the mirror there was a loud burst like an explosion in my stomach on the left side of my body. I do not know which part of me died or what happened, I went to sleep after a quick prayer and was glad and blessed to wake up in the morning, I have asked for forgiveness and I am not playing with my life anymore, I am sticking to natural cannabis which i’ve smoked for 8 years without ever feeling a near death experience such as with SPICE, MAMBA or whatever you call it. DO NOT PLAY WITH YOUR LIFE>>>>>>> ( please contact me if my symptoms or experience resembles anything you’ve felt, id like to offer my experience and support to anyone who needs it). Peace out

  • austinp

    I smoked k2 about 5 years ago i had a bad trip and i thought i was gonna die the whole week after and then i got better and thought it was all over.Ive been suffering for about a year now from this feeling so bad i dont even leave my house unless i have too now. I get sick when the tempiture changes drastically and i cant stand the heat i get dizzy and i get headaches daily since i first smoked it does anyone else have these symptomes.

    • m.g. Scott

      I smoked heavily for 5 years I have had all these symptoms I haven’t been off of it nearly as long as you but I am also experiencing numbness,coughing up blood and on and on….

      • Erin

        go to hospital! my shit.ended up.being.laced…pcp.and.amphetamines… it’s.not.”legal” shit any more… honestly..and I had an er and.white.are.safer… pathetic….don’… luckily.I’m…

    • Mryolo

      Sorry to hear that man. I have those symptoms too at times. But just wondering, have you smoke k2 more than once? If not, how many hits?

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  • Eduardo

    I had been a spice addict for 6 years and as much I Wana say that It was all bad and I do encourage everybody to stay out of it was fucking worth it to mee right now I can say I been clean for 5 months I still don’t feel right not in health or withdraw issues because thats for a weak mind and body if you are gonna smoke because you wanna get along with your friends and just know how it feels like than you are a dumbads spice is nothing to play with and aint for an avarage pot smoker before IMA tell you all a Lil part of my life I was just entered the 9 grade being the football team star I was well known liking to party I’d had tried coke,weed,pills,r2,Xanax bars extacsy,even lsds. I had a perty good tolerance and could handdle every drug but not for long summer of 2009 I got to my causins house and he busted out a 3 Grammer he told me it was the shit me liking being fucking high all the time smoked in a second I liked it on the spot till the day out of all the drugs of tried I can literally say spice was my favorite but it changed my life for ever this is just my beginning I started smoking real heavy every day everyday everyday having a high tolerance and having tried hard core drugs before I was handling for a while 6 7 months into it I couldnt go to bed without smokig I first thing in my head when I would wake up was a bowl before getting on the bus I would smoke a bowl going to school.I would smoke a bowl right when to school I would smoke a bowl before and aftet class I would smoke a bowl of course I would never run out cause all my life I’d been a damn thug not proud to say I would always sel buy spice wich was an epidemic in my school I live in the south Texas 956 RGV my house being 2 miles from the river I always had the chance to make money doing iligal shit but I was still able to keep Goin to football practice I was still able to be the best at football being a starter being just a freshmen in varsity team all. Years pass and I became a senior in and out of trouble fights ,women,sex,beer,drugs power, but it a cough up to mee soon. I started moving pounds with that came more money lots of it so my addictions got even worse and even worse I got cought with 300 pounds in my trunk got sent to jail then released on papers and again started smoking that a shit cared but couldn’t stop by this time I was fustrated not by the mistakes I’d made but as fun as my story sounds I WAs sick already yes I had fevers yes I couldn’t stop shaking at night couldn’t eat if I tried quiting wking up in the middle of the night in my bed soaked in sweat not to mention loosing trust of my family but I think that’s war made me the strongest I would ask my mom for help I would ask my dad for help ass.a sick person they didn’t care my friends didn’t care nobody care it was just me alone dying literally cause of this time I was still smoking cause I couldn’t manage 2 days without smoking cause I would get as sick as heroin addict because I just diddt try it once or twice six years of everyday getting blasted really really high six months ago or five or seven don’t remember the exact date I smoke I started crying I didn’t feel sorry for myself I deserve it I didn’t feel mad at the world cause they left me alone when I was sick and needed support I just tough of all the chances I lost the scholarship I lost the 2 felonies I have every time I apply for a job I knew I was ready to take a step foward and leave it behind I still have trouble adapting to a drug free world I feel weird I have never drove sober never played ball with my Lil brother not high never had sex and feel the actual pleasure it gives you cause I was always blasted I still feel sad cause I have not earned the trust of my perents but I’m happy because I took myself out. Of my death so no need to wine and be b itching cause that never took me anywhere you got to simply just let go and you will be fine I tough I was gona die as some of my frends did or spend more time In prison than wqt I actually did I tough I was never gonna be a normal person and I now am just let go guys I’m not gonna lie and say I didn’t enjoy and lie and say I didn’t suffer you just gotta loose your self and find yourself again ,,if you got eat it takes you be stronger than ever

    • CJ

      I understand u very well my friend… Same shitt almost happened to me… But ur situation is even worst.. Hope u will get to real life soon! I was in the hospital for 1 week… Sweating shaking throwing up and etc.. Once i thought i was gonna die in the hospital… I couldnt tell my parents that i smoked that shit.. Im muslim and its even strict in ur family.. So doctors took all drug tests … Of course spice doesnt show anything in ur system… So i was clean. I had 10’doctors looking at me and didnt knw what was my problem … Only after a month i started to become normal person.. Just knw ome thing guys … Spice = death .. (One day)

    • Nicky

      Wow . This has me in tears right now. All the things you mentioned is happening to me and I’m only 16. I’ve been smoking k2 for about 2months straight. (Heavy) I’ve smoked k2 in; bongs,bible paper ????,bambu,Marley,raw you name it.????. I’ve even on a daily basis mixed k2 with Tabacco (even brake any cigarette and mix it). I would hear voices sometimes and see things (depending on the pack). Look everything you said basically????. I’ve been k2 free for about 3-4 days. Im experiencing all of these withdrawals in the pic I’ve posted. My head hurts a lot , my back & upper part of my stomach under my cleavage. I swear I’m going thru it. Idk what to do . please help me.

      • Nikko Ameen

        Drink plenty of cranberry juice, water and eat plenty of fruit. Talk to the lord and pray ask for strength, guidance and forgiven. Focus your mind onto doing something you like really doing a sport video game walking or etc beside the drugs. I’m a drug user to honestly only weed tho. In I can honestly say those things help me out a lot because as of today I’m free from drugs don’t even think about using them anymore. Oh in eat like some trail mix nuts

      • Julian Sills

        Smoke weed, but be careful, your nervous receptors that fire off while smoking k2 are the same that fire off for cannabis, and smoking weed can either help you or hurt you more depending on the situation, if your receptors have mistaken marijuana for k2, when you go to smoke weed your going to end up feeling the high of k2 along with its side effects, scary right? but either way it should still be done, other chemicals will have clung to your cannabis receptors while taking in the main ingredient, because it is made with chemicals related to paint thinner, copper preservative used in electrical poles, concrete mix and even nail polish remover, these chemicals need to be freed from your receptors and that can only be done by flushing them with pure the and non harmful cannabinoids, otherwise other substances that you take in through those receptors will also give you harmful side effects, purify yourself, also look into ionized silver, it can be vaporized and used as a powerful remedy to your withdrawals and side affects, and can also help to reverse the damage to your lungs, which is likely greater due to direct absorption of the chemicals. You cannot buy ionized silver legally in the United States unless you purchase an emergency kit due to its monopoly on medical uses, it was outlawed for almost putting pharmaceutical companies out of business and was used by native American healers to cure infections of the blood and lungs along with many other illnesses, I can vouch for its potency because I myself used this when there was no other option, modern medicine does not know how to combat these side effects because the make up of the substance is ever changing due to law enforcement, if you go to the doctor they will test you, take your money and tell you that you shouldnt have been doing that, and not to do it again. If you are a smoker they will tell you to quit due to hyper extension of the lungs, and send you home, so save your money time and hope.

        • Andre

          So what smoke weed in moderation?

      • GrandAndreasK

        I’m a unfit “NEET” that weights about 150kg and it took me 2-3 weeks to kick the withdrawal and side effects…. never doing that shit again… I was SOOOOOOOOO!!!! grateful to be able to eat and sleep normally again…

      • Sara

        I started smoking this stuff when I was 16 and I’ll be 21 March 2016. My health is SOO poor. I’ve been to multiple gastrointestinal doctors, ER visits, primary doctors, etc. I have had two surgeries on my stomach due to this drug. I smoke and have smoked it every day all day and throughout the night. I don’t hallucinate but I get extremely sick. Projectile vomiting, sweats, chills, insomnia, and a few other symptoms. This occurs every month and will last 5-7 days. It gets so extreme I drink water and not even minutes later I’m throwing it right back up. I want to stop but my body feels like it needs it because it’s so used to it. I wake up in the middle of the night to the top of my stomach burning me. Im constantly having a burning sensation in my upper stomach area. I was just diagnosed with a kidney infection that 2 antibiotics couldn’t clear up. I don’t know if I’m going through kidney failure now because it’s gotten so bad. I go to see a new specialist soon at Loyola Medical Center to see where to go from here because I can feel my body shutting down. I feel weak, tingling sometimes, tired, ANXITEY, STRESS, and depression. You’ve got to quit to save yourself. The key is you have to WANT to be clean more than you want that feeling of being high. I want to be clean but the stomach,back, and kidney pain I experience pushes me to just pack another bowl to relieve the pain. Sure Ive tried pain pills to help me but I just end up throwing them up. And most of the time they are still fully formed, not even a little dissolved. So just know eventually it WILL lead to other health problems. I don’t even have my gallbladder anymore because they thought removing it would help my health but Im still severely sick from this. Just get it in your thoughts, if you don’t quit you will just die. And if it’s not the spice that kills you it’s the health conditions the spice has caused. It’s damaging you in ways you don’t even know yet.

        • Jeremy

          Seems you let the drug control you to a point of no return. You need to go to rehab to quit i think.. You wont die if you dont have it. I smoked every day for 3 years and it took me rehab and a mental hospital to get clean. Or anotjer option is have fsmily members lock you in a room so you csnt smome it at all and make sure you are hydratedand fed. But if your that paranoid about if you dont have it you die.. Mental hospital they will keep an eye on you and check blood pressure and heart rate to make sure you are ok. Dont be embarrassed to get help.

  • BoocaMans

    I am 15 and last night I almost died someone lied to me and said it was weed and I smoked it like it was I started tripping bad it took me 10 minutes to open the fucking door to come back inside I had to crawl upstairs and ask my parents if I was going to die my face was as white as a ghost and my puples looked like 2 pennies I couldn’t speak and I could barely move and I puked until I had nothing left to throw up then they took me to the hospital and at the time I wanted to die to make it stop it scared me out of using anything ever again so I suggest no one uses it

  • Ada

    I work in mental health. A huge percentage and often the worst cases of psychosis that I’ve seen were caused by spice use. It’s one of our first suspects when someone is violently, paranoid delusional – and far more likely than meth or cocaine. Even after you clean the drug out of their system, many patients never return to their former selves. Some just never think clearly again. Others remain permanently psychotic. Some people mistakenly thought they were just getting weed. Steer clear of the stuff and if you do smoke pot, make sure that’s what you’re really getting. Synthetics end lives.

    • Jeremy

      I have to disagree with you. I came out of phycosis after 8 months of being free of it. Thank God. Im normal again

  • Robert Hunt

    Like a dummy I tried that spice crap at first it was great no bad side effects but then when they outlawed it and they changed the formula is when the crap hit the fan. To me anyway it looked the same but wow was it different same high
    but wow the side effects one brand would make my muscles jerk another had me walking funny my knees would bend I could not stand straight when high on it did I quit nope it took a bad batch to get me to stop it actually made the veins in my arms burn after smoking this Demon crap I dumped the rest I had in the toilet.
    Long term effects I quit in 2012 all my bones pop and crack now I am only 32
    so this crap it not worth it stick to pot. I was already mentally unstable so it did not change me much.

  • Angelprincessstar

    My partner is currently sectioned due to the effects of this spice. He got addicted to the crap in prison and couldn’t kick the habit outside. He had a massive physcotic episode and completely lost the plot. It got to the point he was smoking it every 10 mins and he absolutely lost it. The stuffs evil and highly addictive. He chose this over normal cannabis and its going to be a very long recovery if he ever does recover. He lost everything to spice his house,car money children….everything and that was smoking it for a few months.

  • ltlata2de14

    Recently broke up with my bf and there were many reasons but the biggest was his obsession with spice. He spikes his pot with it and when he runs out of the real stuff he just smokes spice. I have had some extremely uncomfortable nights dealing with him and his side effects. He has had extreme projectile vomiting, seizures, convulsions, catatonic states, uncontrollable movements in his limbs, panic attacks and completely just out of his mind. I hated every moment he would start smoking and felt like I was just there to make sure he didn’t die. He is still doing it and thinks he can handle it. Sad thing is he has a 3 year old that he doesn’t care enough about to stop.
    I can totally see him dying from it. He doesn’t care about anything but getting high. But since our breakup I have felt peace, relaxed and happy. Our times together were great till he started smoking spice.

  • Lifeisachoice

    My brother is currently in prison for illegal drug related crime and after two years of being clean(ish) has now become hooked on this new spice stuff. It is heartbreaking to see what damage it is doing further to what he has already done to himself and our family. At this rate he is going to rot away in prison smoking a legal high. Not exactly cool or “gangsta” is it. Getting high with a bunch of scum in a prison cell. He has become the opposite of what he could of been. The saddest thing? He cannot stop himself. Even at rock bottom, he continues to tunnel further down.

  • mom2mkld

    My son tells me he only smoked spice twice and claims it wasn’t bad, but he quit all smoking, even tobacco, because he became a Christian. I have a problem with spice, though; the long-term effects. The last time he smoked spice, he was completely psychotic for a month! It was a horrible month for us all. He had me running him around to doctors and hospitals because he was sure he had a large tapeworm crawling around inside him, or he thought there was something wrong with his heart, and he accused me of having sex with his friend, he was suspicious of everyone, he would wake my husband and I up almost nightly because he said he felt the tapeworm crawling around inside of him and even said that there were worms crawling around in his brain. Whenever I would take him to the hospital, he would not be truthful with them. So, the last hospital I took him to, he was let go with “hemorrhoids” and was very angry, saying the doctors did not believe him. So, I went back in there and told him I would make them take an x-ray, like he wanted. But, I told the doctor and mental health counselor what was really going on. They admitted him to the psych ward. I don’t know how much that helped. He tells me he did not cooperate, would not take the medicine, would not go for an MRI, etc. They were going to keep him 32 days, but let him go after 2 or 3 days — probably because we didn’t have insurance for him. Now, he is very guarded about what he shares. I know something is going on inside that brain, but he won’t say anything. He’s afraid of going back to the psych ward. Sometimes, he seems like himself, but many days he has delusional thinking. He goes through crazy stages, like we have to have all the lights off. Or, someone is out to kill him. Lately, he freaks out if the door is not locked at all times. He freaks out about his food and says it tastes different and won’t eat. He’s very paranoid. He has even started having my dog sleep with him and locks his bedroom door. He’s just not himself. There are many other strange little things, too much to mention, that he does. They are just not normal. It seems he still has some delusional or psychotic thinking. It bothers me and I don’t know what to do for him. He’s 20, sleeps most the time, has no job and doesn’t care to have one. He thinks he’s going to play basketball for a college, but takes no steps towards even getting into a college. I hate spice. It has messed up his brain. I just pray that it eventually gets out of his system and he can think normally and live a normal life.

    • Jeremy

      Its not a tapeworm but feels like bugs or a spider crawling on your skin. Its a side effect of using spice. I am a former user. And the symptoms dont go away even after being clean for 2 years. My mind did come back to me from quitting but it did take 8 months to come out of phycosis

      • Jeremy

        Tell him in a sentimental way his ‘tapeworm’ is in his head.. Its just an itch side effect from using.

  • Scared&Confused

    My bf been smoking for 3yrs, a week ago he got sick throwing up couldn’t hold nothing down he had hot and cold flashes about three days ago the throwing up slowed up a lot, he can only eat noodles and drink ice cold water. Three days ago he started talking in his sleep having a whole conversation with multiple ppl like if they right there or if he’s on his phone. He refuse to go to the hospital, he will say if he go they will give him something that will make him crazy, he rather just wait and see if it would were off

  • Greatful Mom from Louisiana

    My son is 6’1 200lbs he took one (1) hit of spice (mojo) ended up in ICU for 3 day on life support.. The only reason he is with us today I by the grace of God and a lot of prayers… My son has smoked this years ago before they pulled it from the store shelves. All it took was that 1 hit to throw him into a seizure then life support.. I had a few friends that lost their young teens to this poisonous drug. Please please at least read and gather information before doing ANY DRUG I because it could be your last… Then your families are left to grieve….God Bless!! Grateful Mon❤️

  • Pam D

    My 18 year old son after smoking spice one night, ended up in a mental facility for six days.After “rescuing” him and bringing him back home, and then his continued use of the “real” stuff, I have had to move him out of his dorm room and un-enrolled him from college, he was a star athlete with a bright future, smart, cute, a talented writer, and everybody loved him. He now talks of grandiose plans to be a businessman, a music producer and even Bill Gates, he feels he has supernatural powers and understands things that no one else does, he wanders, going from place to place putting hundreds of miles on his car, and seems to have no interest in much of anything, not food or clothes or even his own hygiene. I am so sad and have done everything within my power to save him, but it seems as though I can’t, he is mentally ill because of what that night of spice has done to him and I wonder if I will ever get him back… seems all I can do now is pray………..

    • Jeremy

      I went through this. I smoked it for 2 years almost daily. I was eventually diagnosed with drug enduced scitzophrenia. I was in the mental hospital for 2 weeks before they released me. My family had to take care of me for 8 months before it wore off. I hope this helps. I thought i had powers too, i didnt mean anything bad by it but i also isolated myself from people because i heard voices talking to me when i was in a crowd.. The tv talked to me.. I was scared for my life.. I had no emotions almost zombie like…i talked outloud to concentrate what i had to do next with simple tasks… Then one day i felt normal again. I hope and pray your children come out of the psycosis..and my story helps you.

  • Luis Toro

    I feel you I was given this shit by some fake friend who said it was just fake weed and that it was harmless. Now I’m diagnosed with schizophrenia after doing this shit with him and I feel like my brain suffered damage. And I gotta be taking medication. This shit is really bad I only did it three times. Do not smoke spice!!!

    • marle

      Oh my God….my son is at the psyche ward and we are discussing schizophrenia. I am worried as hell with this whole thing. This stuff is bad. I am angry for whomever gave it t him. He said he only did it twice. He still see aliens and things and I’m the one who’s about to go nuts.

      • Luis Toro

        That sucks I’m mad at the person who gave it to me too. I used to see things too and hear things but now I’m taking medication. I’m really sorry about your son.

        • marle

          I will pray for your full recovery. Nothing is impossible in God’ hands.

          • Luis Toro

            Thank you I’ve been praying every day I’ll pray for your son too.

          • Lissa Russell Stern

            I’m so very sorry this is happening to people. My roommate 52 & his 25 year old son smoke this crap eat smoke eat smoke eat everyday. I am very worried for both and have tried to talk them into stopping it. It is changing my roommate and he looks horrible. I don’t know how to help them other than calling g the police but don’t know if they can do anything. Do any of you have any advice please ?

          • Luis Toro

            You should recommend them to a rehab centers and explain to them that this drug is very dangerous. It’s nothing like weed.

          • Luis Toro

            Tell them this drug has damaged a lot of people and it can damage them too.

  • Xxx

    Me too for four years…until last week. Worst thing ever. Keep on ROLLIN the dice and eventually you will crap out too.

  • Jonathan

    How do you feel now? And was it once

    • Dom

      I mean I’m good it’s just given me depression and alot of anxiety, life was alot easier and more natural to me before spice and It seems like I have really bad memory, I wish it was just once, I couldn’t count how many times but I’d say at least a few hundred, I personally knew a manufacturer so I wouldn’t paypay, one of the biggest regrets in my life to be honest with you.

    • Dom

      I oh and by the way I’ve been clean off the stuff since I’d say January of 2014 I had a period of major depression which kept me both unemployed and encarcerated more than once. I thank God my family is still here for me. I don’t know what I’d do without them.

      • Jonathan

        Mine was once and i feel un normal ,ever since like june idk if its just me or a real problem , how have u over come it and have youve gotten better

      • Jonathan

        Also how has your family been able to help

  • Nate

    I tried it twice and it was BAD! As it induced psychotic symptoms such feeling like I was melting into wall and ground while suffering a full blown paranoid attack, thank GOD it only last for only couple of minutes… Highly recommend NOT to try it at all!

  • Misha

    Wow. After reading some comments i no longer feel alone. My boyfriend and i were hardcore potheads. Well one day our mmj reccomendations expired. So we started buying pot off of neighbors. Well one day my boyfriend bought some “weed” off of a so called “friend”. Well let me tell you, with mmj, it takes ALOT more than one or two hits to get us high especially if your a big time stoner. Well this crap got us high in one hit but we proceeded to smoke two hits. We were sooooo high, it wasnt a pleasant high either. I looked into my davinchi painting and saw demons in it and the demons started coming out of the painting and into my apartment. Tall, dark, entities with small wings. I ran out of my apartment and into my neighbor’s apt (not a drug addict in any way), and i saw his wife that died years ago in his restroom. I tried to splash my face with water and all that did was intensify the effect. I saw demons all over the hallways, outside, and my bf called 911, and when we went outside the demons started grabbing my arms and legs and in the ambulance strapped down, the emt that was in there with me noticed my body moving crazy like i was possessed or something. I told him what i was seeing and he believed me. My heartrate was so high, i almost died of terror. He said the Lord’s prayer, i said it back, and i was able to stop shaking so he can give me the iv fluid. Then at the hospital, i saw many many more demons. It seemed like every person in there had anywhere from 10-100 demons behind them or around them or watching them. I was seeing THAT WORLD. Scariest shit ever. Since then, i havent smoked and i still have severe panic attacks since. Its been like 5 months since that happened and im slowly recovering from that. It was a horrible experience. Ill never ever forget it. Please, if you’ve never smoked spice, dont ever do it. Just one time can fuck you up forever. Just smoke pot if you have to from a reliable natural grower or a well recoomended mmj dispensary thats MEDS HAVE BEEN TESTED. Thats my story i wish that i never smoked spice.

    • Ryan Nelson

      Wow, that’s f’d up! Sorry you had to live that

    • Lissa Russell Stern

      My goodness glad you came thru that ok. Stay strong I will keep you in my prayers <3

  • Jeremy

    Wow i am amazed it only took you guys a few days to feel normal mentally. Glad you quit it too. Way to go

  • Jeremy

    It doesnt matter if you are in or out in public. Apparently you see a change in him needing money (qiud) more often..he must be buying it on the inside. Also if you notice him on edge.. Anxious.. Paranoid.. He is using. These are a few tell signs of a user.. Hope i helped.. Im a former user

  • Luis Toro

    Hi I need help. I did spice three times unaware of the bad consequences it had. I’m trying to get my life and my brain together. I feel like this spice damaged my brain. I feel like my brain doesn’t function right sometimes. I wanna know if my brain will heal from the damage caused by the spice. Can anyone help me with this question please?

    • Raphael

      Luis, I pray that you will summon the strength each and every day to get over this mountain. I just lost my brother Nov 19th due to a drug-induced suicide. The alternative to not pressing ahead and moving past this is DEATH. Don’t die. Rather, latch on to and fight for life each and every day, even through the rough patches. Just when you think life sucks to the point there’s no reason to keep pushing, push ahead even harder. There is no coming back from death. Not homelessness, lonliness, hunger, or incarceration is worse than death. While you are alive, there is always hope. Cling on to that hope and use it as inspiration to help your fellow humans.

      • Luis Toro

        Thanks for your words I’ll keep them in mind.

  • Regrets

    My life used to be fantastic. I was a freak athlete, had an IQ that was well above average, a good relationship with my family, was employed and thriving, socially active, had an incredible 10/10 girlfriend, the prettiest women of every race chasing me, and was working towards a college degree. Everything changed once I got arrested for marijuana. Since I had to take drug tests, one of my seemingly normal, “friends” who was fresh out of jail told me that there was this stuff called spice that was the same as weed but legal. After smoking it and having a bizarre psychic experience, I became quickly addicted. Since then, I quit my job, flunked out of school, lost 45 lbs of muscle and became a couch potato, developed short-term memory loss, look 10 years older in my face, have a poor relationship with most of my family, and the woman I loved is being railed out by some random guy. Please. Don’t smoke spice. I beg you. Don’t ruin your life like I did.

  • Cindy

    Oh my gosh. Thank-you so much for your story. I have a friend who is doing this and I had no clue what it did to you and now I do and will do everything I can to get my friend off of it forever

    • Luis Toro

      No problem I’m glad I could help you. If I was you I would tell your friend to stop smoking this garbage immediately. It can cause some serious damage. It messed me up it could mess your friend up too.

  • James

    I was at work and I went out to take the trash out to the dumpster. My manager was there and told me to try what she was smoking. She said “it’s a new type of menthol!” Which I thought she meant weed so I didn’t think much of it. So I took 5-6 hits, and walked back inside. All of the sudden I thought I was Mario, and I was throwing fireballs out of my hands. It scared me to death. So I went up to a customer and tried it, and I thought they lit on fire. So I screamed, ran out the building, and ran around it. My heart was racing so fast I thought I was going to die..then I thought I was sinking into the ground like quicksand until my head was in the concrete. I couldn’t breathe. Next thing I know, I woke up in managers car, she’s rushing me to a hospital saying she’s sorry over and over again. then I kept hearing LOUD screams in my head and relived memories of my girlfriends rape, and all of my worst memories ever. The next day, I couldn’t remember my name until 10 minutes after I woke up. Ever since then, I will NEVER touch that shit excuse for a drug ever again. Just added to one of my worst memories ever

    • Luis Toro

      I feel you this drug is terrible. It was given to me by a so called friend who told me it was just fake weed. I thought it was harmless so I smoked it like three times and I regret it. It messed up my brain pretty bad I don’t know if I’ll ever recover. I don’t recommend anyone even take a single hit of this garbage. It’s poison.

  • Luis Toro

    This is a terrible drug!!!! For anyone who is even thinking of trying this drug DONT!!!!! I only did this drug three times but that was enough for it to mess up my brain. I don’t know if I’ll ever recover. This crap damaged my brain.

  • Luis Toro

    Your right man this drug is fucked up. It’s a horrible drug. It really fucks you up. I don’t know why someone would create a drug like this or even sell it.

  • Samara

    My husband has been smoking spice for some time now. I do not approve and we fight about it all the time. Last night, he was peeling potatoes and ate a piece of potato and said he choked on the potatoe and couldn’t catch his breath and he passed out. What I witnessed (and our children) was much different. I heard a loud crash and found him on his back in the kitchen, eyes open, fist clenched, shaking and from what I remember, foaming at the mouth. It only lasted a minute before he came to but i had the phone in my hand about to call 911. He blew it off like it was no big deal and still claims he just passed out from choking….but i know the difference between passing out and having a seizure. My dad was epileptic and often had seizures. This morning, my husband went to his friends house and smoked it again. Im so furious i cant see straight. He just doesnt thing spice does anything bad to him. We have 4 little boys. I honestly dont know what to do. We have fought about this for years. Im ready to take my kids and leave!

    • Luis Toro

      Wow your husband is making some really poor choices. Spice is a really bad drug. I only did it three times and it messed me up. If I were you I would tell him to think about his kids and his family. Spice has killed people. It’s a horrible drug.

      • Raphael

        My brother just shot himself in the head and killed himself Nov. 19th 2015. Spice and meth killed my little brother. Anyone reading this, man up and deal with the withdrawals while you are still alive, because when you’re dead, you don’don’t just kill yourself, you kill your family and all of your loved ones. I will forever have this image of him shooting himself, wondering what he was thinking in his last second of life. I’m hurting beyond words. I know that when you are under the influence, reason aND sound judgement such as the words I’m saying are removed from your reality. But, imagine your mother or father or wife or husband or son or daughter killing them self from drug use. What would you feel like? Try real hard to imagine that. Use that as your moment of reason to uplift yourself and battle through the withdrawals. Life will always be hard. Why make it much harder for yourself and the universe?

        • Luis Toro

          I’m really sorry to hear about your brother man. Spice is a terrible drug. I did it three times and it messed up my brain. The people selling this drug are heartless because they know how bad of a drug it is and they’re still selling it.

        • mermie

          That is so sad, so true, thank u. Reality, its the devil, I have four kids and I couldn’t imagine that pain ur going through. My heart goes out for u and ur family. Please share ur story help others, I will scream from the hilltops to everyone how deadly and destructive this crap is, God bless u.

  • Becca Mala

    My boyfriend od’d on spice and now has permanent brain damage. He was so handsome, intelligent, funny, everything. Now he’s just a shell of the man he was. He can’t hold a conversation, he has trouble with manual dexterity, is just slow about everything. Even his beautiful laugh is gone. I hate what spice did to him. He was the live of my life and my best friend. He’s not even him anymore.

    • Luis Toro

      I’m sorry to hear that spice damaged my brain too.

    • Meataxe

      No he didn’t. You can’t “OD” on “spice”, it’s not medically possible. If what you are describing is actually a real person and not a made up story (likely, judging by your carefully leading word choice), he most likely took an overdose of a class A drug or just drank too much..

  • KAli

    I been smoking spice for over a year now im now pregnant and cant find any side effects can u help?

    • Luis Toro

      It hasn’t affected you?

    • mermie

      How u don’t have no side effects? I don’t believe that.

    • Sensui

      Different strokes for different folks…no pun intended

    • Meataxe

      Use moderation and there are none. Not everyone gets wasted every time they take some, but you can’t tell that to a social worker..


    I came addicted to spice through prison. Now all thats behind me except the spice addiction. I’ve had many siesures and heart attacks due to spice and I’m begging for help to quit

    • Luis Toro

      Be strong don’t do it anymore. I hope you recover. This is a very harmful drug .

      • Meataxe

        Fake comment from the dot org webmasters. At least try and make it sound authentic.

  • Krystal Valdez

    Worst expierence of my life I’m still suffering with the consequences just hit it three times and it missed up my brain my emotions and my life seems like an end right now

    • Luis Toro

      I’m sorry to hear that this is a horrible drug!

      • Krystal Valdez

        Yes it sucks bad thing is that I didn’t even ask for this just got a bad batch

        • Luis Toro

          Oh were u trying to get real weed?

          • Krystal Valdez

            Yes but unfortunately that went south lol

          • Luis Toro

            Oh that sucks I hope you recover. I didn’t know how bad spice was when I tried it. I only did it three times but it damaged my brain.

          • Meataxe

            Hi, I just read on. Bad batch, huh? Now that I can believe. There’s a billion reasons that happens.

        • Pablo Valdez

          Theirs power in the name of Jesus

    • Meataxe

      I bet you took other stuff as well. Either that or you are working for the charity or simply mistaken. Because there isn’t a doctor alive who would blame your emotional state on three tries of cannabinoids. That’s hysterical nonsense. Your problems lie elsewhere, dear.

    • Brandons mysteries


  • CanuckExpat

    If weed wasn’t illegal people wouldn’t bother with the legal shit that kills.

    The number of people who have died from weed is zero. Not one. Such a stupid law.

  • Meataxe

    What lies. There is actually NO EVIDENCE at all about any effects on cardiac health. I clicked all the links and they are either broken or just hearsay, same as this article. And for the record, the increased heart rate is due to the muscular relaxant effect on your respiratory muscles. The cure is literally as simple as taking deep breaths, as you are partially forgetting to breathe. God the scaremongering among the semi-educated chattering classes here is unbelievable.

  • deeti

    How can u get help. Like real help. Ppl is telling me i got to pay 9,000 for a rehab. Is there any free rehab or cheaper. I really really need help. I can see my life going doen hill

  • bob

    To Everyone out there struggling with this evil crap. There is hope! You can quit! I smoked wide open(up to 5 grams a day) for 5 years. Getting through the withdrawl is the hardest part. I suggest getting some real weed to get through this and lots of nyquil. If you beat the horrible come down you cannot look back. You must distance yourself from where you were getting it and any friends that might still be smoking. Ive been off this crap for 6 months and I still have horrible lingering side effects. I’m still hopeing that I will be normal again someday but i have my doubts. If your that person reading this thinking that this shit can’t happen to me well I will tell you I used to think that aswell. When my blood pressure spiked to 180/120 I woke up. I realized what I had been doing to myself. Even though I still have side effects I know I have the addiction beat. I did it cold turkey by myself so I know anyone can do it. Just realize that If you don’t quit you are slowly or maybe even quickly killing yourself. Good luck be strong and get ready for the fight for your life.

  • Kameerah matthews

    Eating food helps come down from a bad trip I do know for a fact you might not feel like eating but by all means do !!! Also if you go somewhere where you can’t get your hands on spice and you don’t know anybody or anywhere to get it and you stay there for awhile it helps stop the addiction part of it and regular marijuana (thc) does not always help it still causes paranoia and since the side effects of spice is long lasting the paranoia is intensified and all other side effects of spice stay strong and remember it’s all in your head ! and then find the will to move on ! there’s other great ways to have fun and enjoy life !!!!

  • Luis Toro

    I heard you lose “smart” when you do this drug. I feel that’s the case with me. I don’t feel as smart as I used to be. I feel like I lost some functioning of my brain. My brains just not the same after I did this drug. It sucks.

    • Luis Toro

      Insane in the membraaaaain!
      Insane got no brain

      • Luis Toro


  • Luis Toro

    To anyone reading this don’t do this drug not even one time. It’s one of the worst drugs out there and it can ruin your brain and your life. It’s nothing similar to natural marijuana it’s way worse. Don’t do this drug it’s poison.

  • Cheyann

    I used to smoke spice all the time. I thought it wasn’t that bad because it smelt like insects plus back when I started smoking it you could buy it at any local smoke shop. There was one time, I smoked about 10 or more small bowls within the hour. The next thing I know I couldn’t feel my body, my entire mouth was numb and when I went to speak I just couldn’t. It was nothing like smoking really marijuana. The next day I always felt so strange and sometimes hullisinated. I knew that it was bad but I kept doing it off and on. Now looking back I can’t remember parts of my life. I’m starting to wondering if spice was the cause of it all.

  • Luis Toro

    This drug causes severe brain damage. It messed up my brain. A psychiatrist told me that my brain is gone. It sucks cause I only did this drug about three times. Please don’t do this drug whatever you do it will mess you up!!! It’s a very bad drug it’s nothing like natural marijuana. This drug is herbs and leaves sprayed with harmful chemicals that have never been tested on humans. The packages that they sell it in at stores even says “Not for human consumption.” The people making and selling this drug are heartless because they know how dangerous it is and they’re still making and selling it. I wish I would’ve known how harmful this drug was before I did it.

  • Luis Toro

    I read stories about people who did this stuff for months and years and it didn’t affect their health then I look at my story I only did this drug three times and it messed up my brain and I wonder how that’s possible.

    • Alex Trophen

      when did you start to feel messed up or schitzo like the day after you tried it??

      • Luis Toro

        Actually I’ve done weed and cocaine too and I think it was the cocaine that caused the psychosis or schizophrenia not the spice cause I only did spice three to five times. And I didn’t start to feel schitzo till six or seven months after I did spice. I started feeling messed up a year after doing the spice. My brain didn’t feel the same. I was a smart person.

  • sandra tesa

    i only did it once and i dont feel like myself can it wear off because im very scared

    • Luis Toro

      I think it depends. I heard that the brain can heal. I hope you recover

    • oliveruby

      You should be alright, Your seratonin levels are probably a little unbalanced atm. That can happen from taking drugs. It will affect how you feel mentally.
      How do you feel?

  • maxinthefax

    i did spice once and that was in 2012 in SF and yea people called it “fake weed” and out of curiousity i took a few hit and on the way home i was feeling high and then all of a sudden paranoia hit me and that’s when i promised myself not to smoke spice and synthetic weed not even real weed again. It’s not worth it to feel paranoid just for that 15 minute rush you have after the first hit.

  • Godot

    My ex did it and thought people were stalking her when they weren’t. So the paranoia thing is true.

  • jane

    i am a seasoned weed smoker and accidentaly smoked spice once cos someone had left what i thought was a roll up in the ashtray…..only sparked it up but instantly felt awful. couldnt move or see properly and 24 hrs later my heart rate is v high and still feel panicky, why is this stuff still legal?

    • Luis Toro

      I agree this shit shouldn’t be legal it’s ruining many people’s lives. The makers and sellers of this drug should be punished by the law and spend the rest of their lives in prison.

  • Wayne Lawrence Oneal Jr.

    Hi…im sure thats not truly the case with you..GOD designed our bodys to be resilient and HE IS A MERCIFUL GOD.

    • Luis Toro

      I know man I believe in God I’m just struggling right now I hope I recover. Thanks for your positive words.

  • Luis Toro

    Is there anyone else who suffered brain damage from doing this drug?

    • I Loathe Spice

      I had insomnia and very strong hunger suppression

    • Pete

      I’d like to know also. Stupid trickster people think its funny…

      • Luis Toro

        I was wrong I don’t have brain damage a stupid nurse made me believe I do but I dont!

  • Phoenix8506

    My brother has just been hospitalized from this stuff he took a knife to his neck not knowing what he was doing. Something needs to be done about this stuff

    • Luis Toro

      I know the people who make this stuff and sell it are stupid. This drug shouldn’t be sold anymore. It’s ruining many peoples lives.

  • Alex

    I did spice last night, not aware of the side effects. I was driving and slowly lost control of my body. Luckily I pulled over before I couldn’t move. I was stuck in the seat. I was freaking out and didn’t know what was going on. I started crying because I felt like I was dying. I was also very paranoid. It’s sad that it took me smoking this to stay off drugs for good. This should not be legal anywhere. It is very scary and life threatening.

    • Luis Toro

      Spice is a terrible drug

    • Jeremy

      Quit immediately, you WILL go crazy or die using spice. Trust me i know by experience.

    • Shay

      I tried spice my very first time. I had has started laughing and was having a great time. Couple seconds after giggling it was like my head spinning in circles. I couldn’t stop laughing, I than blacked out I guess and started screaming and vomiting… I had a sexier I couldn’t move I was crying, I was hallucinating and just seeing the same picture over and over again and heard the same music it kept repeating. I wanted out!! I told my self this was it, I’m dead, I’m gone… I was surrounded by people and someone had picked me up which helped me. I came out of it and soon enough I was at the hospital. I normally smoke weed so a well week later i took a hit of weed and I was having flash back. I though I was having a sezier again

      • Shay, thank you for your concern.

        However, we do not fact-check stories submitted to our website by our visitors. They are shared for the purpose of helping others, and many submitters do so anonymously or change their names for obvious reasons.

        It is possible (likely) that Nancy submitted this under a pseudonym.

    • kyle

      its been 2 years and my heart and anxiety goes off the wall i cant even smoke cigs no more or weed cause of k2

  • Ruben Esquivel

    I ran 7 blocks and almost got ran over by traffic (it was rush hour), I thought I was smoking weed but I was given spice.

  • Jeremy Thomas

    I, along with many soldiers in my unit, were extremely addicted to Spice from the year 2010-2011. Different soldiers had different side effects but some of them experienced such bad addiction to it that it consumed their lives. Soldiers that had otherwise been strong, healthy, and well put together begun living in dilapidated and filthy conditions. We called them (spice dens). Other guys had extreme mental issues from it. Many of us experienced long term negative health effects afterwards like heart murmurs, increased psychosis, depression, etc. I smoked spice for a year before quitting. I don’t think I’d still be alive now if I hadn’t.

    • Jeremy

      I was an addict from 09-12 I was in such a bad psycosis i thought i was in purgatory for 8 months while i was withdrawing. Rehab and family support help me quit. Im glad you did too brother.

      • Luis Toro

        How long did you have psychosis?

        • Angela

          My brother has for 4 years now and counting

    • LowLow91

      I’m glad you got it together battle

  • paul keys

    only side effect i seemed to get with spice was the urge to masturbate. got to the point when I was stoned outdoors that I started puling my trousers and pants down infront of schoolgirls and wanking .on balance I decided it was probably not a good idea to continue smoking it.

  • itsmemc

    My spouse has been addicted to this stuff for almost 7 years now. He started smoking it because he was on probation and had weekly drug test and someone told him about “legal weed”. After he got off papers he tried smoking weed again but it no longer got him high anymore no matter how much he smoked so at that point it was a wrap. If you have anybody close to you telling you that this stuff does have any negative effects as far as health mood and addiction they’re lying and are already far into their addiction good luck because at that point it will be a battle to the likeness of heroine. I’ve had to deal with heroine addicts meth addicts and crack addicts in my life and this stuff surpasses a heroine addict after a certain point. It WILL take complete and total control. If you believe in the devil this stuff right here is one of his greatest weapons. Withdrawal symtoms accrue within hours and get very violent. Communication while they’re high is like trying to talk to a heroine addict after they get high they’re fading in and out can’t keep a train of thought can’t follow what’s being said. After a certain point in the addiction there is no just putting it down there has to be a replacement for at least a period of time because they will not sleep for weeks at which point psychotic episodes escalate. Relapse with this is worse than heroine and when it happens it comes on full force. I do not agree with the methadone program for heroine addicts but unfortunately what needs to happen is they’re going to have to come up with a program similar to thay for long time hardcore spice addicts because there is a point where there is no return where the will of the person is literally not enough even if they’ve gotten to the point of realizing and admiting they have a real problem.

    • Jeremy

      Maybe 6 months in a mental institution is an option? That way you can still communicate while he gets the help he needs. Im a former addict just suggesting an option so dont take it the wrong way. I was hooked for 3 years. Clean for 2 now. Rehab, mental hospital for 2 weeks, and 2 relapses but short talking couple dime bags.. But clean.. I hope he gets the help he needs. Good luck

      • Cynthia Levin

        “6 months in a mental hospital”?? Maybe if you’re a billionaire! Most insurance won’t cover two weeks nevermind six months! If you’re paying out of pocket, it’s about $1,000 a day.

  • Maryjane

    I was only able to stop smoking ápice when i started smoking crystal.

  • Kamohomak

    My son is in a psyche ward right now a week ago the exact same case as your son, paranoia, hallucinating, seeing everyone as a demon and attacking even strangers and he sees himself a demon as well sometimes a good demon who must save humanity..he’s 17 I never understood what happened to him until a close friend of him told me he was given spice. I want to know how your son is doing right now has he recovered as I’m still at a loss..I mean should I have hope that my son will be back to normal again? Is his life and career ruined..he’s in senior year high school..would all this be over?

  • ivhadthis

    as a cycler of blacking out from My first Time uses.. to substanstal amounts of mixing various dangerous drugs that shouldn’t be mixed. Ive always had trouble asking for help and I can tell you this.
    Spice, Now, I can tell you, is just that dangerous and More. the hours of cast, blackened, vision cycle.., my poor saliva… to all disorientation and uncontrollable internal intense movements shouldn’t be on this planet from one drug and is a cycle that rock bottom will hit u like a ton of bricks coming your way awaiting its satisfaction with its taking of you and your spirit. My last times were so bad I thought I was going to lose my legs forever, my body was completely shutting down, to waking up with dreams of combustion rolling my ribs from so manyuncontrollable movements and being scared to death. Now, This needs to be researchers by professors and showed the dangerous effects if not a spiritual re awakening of our entire human universe through love and knowledge.. AND completely obliterated from the streets in the meantime because it doesn’t deserve to be here and we don’t deserve to live like that. If anyone wants to talk or needs help just talk to someone and take the help, before it gets too late.

  • Luis Toro

    I got a EEG test done on my brain a couple weeks ago and everything came out normal the nurse that told me that my brain was messed up was wrong. I’m so glad!!!! Thank you God!!!

  • Josh

    I need some help
    Does anyone know if this affects or damages the eyes or the eye nerves? has anyone felt any eye or optic nerve bad effects? or effects of not being able to see properly? any damage to the pupils?
    My cousin tried it and now he says he cannot see correctly. he tried it a couple of months ago and he says he sees fuzzy or sees foggy, Dont know what he means, he keeps saying he feels like the back of his eyes hurt but I dont know how to help him, he is too scared to tell the doctor. he is freaking out that he will not be able to see correctly again.
    anyone know?

    • I Loathe Spice

      I did you try to use the number on this website? I tried it for a month but I didn’t have that side effect.

      • Josh

        the number is only to get to rehab, to set up appointments. nothing more. (they cant answer any questions)

        • Cynthia Levin

          No, they were pretty useless when I called, just wanted my insurance number and such.

    • CWILL

      Well I smoked this garbage for about 5 years. Crazy, I know. I finally stopped and after about a year I felt normal. I ended up smoking some weed about a year and a half after I had stopped the fake stuff and someone put some spice in my pipe without me knowing. Since then I have had this eye issue your talking about, its like a pressure behind the eye. Its been about 4 or five months and its still there. I have been to the optometrist and they didn’t see anything wrong. I have also gone to get a MRI of my brain and it came back perfectly fine. I hoping with a few more months it will go away. It has gotten better over a few months. I can just tell it is still there..

      • Josh

        wow. that sucks. I wonder what it could be.
        Why would it not hurt your eyes for 5 years but then affect you that one time? (thats what happened here too)
        How is your vision? can you see everything correctly? How is your eye memory? do you have any sensitivity to light or anything like that?
        is it just pressure or are there any vision changes?
        My cousin still cant see properly. Not sure if he has another unrelated health problem but the eye problems never went away, kind of feels like it might be some kind of permanent effect or something like that, we hope not but, he still feels weird

        • izzy perez

          Thats because they add other chemicals in it to intentionally hurt usa population.

        • CWill

          Actually it has been just over a year now and my vision has gotten better. It just takes so long to recoup from this stuff. Even if you just smoke a few times it seems like the standard is a year to get back to normal, unless you over do it. The is a point of no return. I couldn’t imagine being permafried on this stuff. I might want to end my life. If you quit, and you need to. Let nature take its course. Eat healthy and excersise. The human body is very resilient and you can recover. It may take over a year though!

    • Death

      Cold breath of death
      Yes my vision came back fully 3 months sober n I just relapsed. This stuff is worse than meth!! Real talk
      It will recover so no worrys on that but renal failure and Central Nervous System Shutdown!!!!!!!
      All spice is not equal

      • Cynthia Levin

        Now that you mention it, I’m three weeks out and my vision in my right eye is a little more blurry than usual.

    • Stop Synthetic

      Yes -You get eye problem with this shit! I started into smoking this shit like two years ago. I smoke only like two cigarettes a day (I mix my stuff with cigarette and smoke in a water bong)

      My left eye deteriorated, started seeing foggy, my pupils got bad, and now I have several black spots in my left eye.

      I stopped for 4 months ( smoked only marijuana when I was craving). I just relapsed…

      My right side of my body feels odd! I feel a kind of numbness in the right side of my abdomen!

      Everytime I smoke, my conscious talks to me!! It tells me this thing is fucking dangerous, it is not natural weed.

      I live in a small island in the indian ocean, and over a hundred kids died from it only in 2016!

      This shit will kill our smoking generation….

      I always say I will stop….but I get so depressed and moody when I do not smoke… It is cheap… I always end up by going to buy it at night to smoke.

  • I Loathe Spice

    I smoked this shit for a month. I used to go to gym after my work every day until I found this. I did not bother to search the internet and proceed to smoke. The effect wasn’t as good as the natural one, hand were numbs, couldn’t even hold a tooth brush, didn’t feel hungry and just wanted to sleep…. I go to work everyday and smoke before that, made me feel calm all the time. I ran out on the third pack and asked the guy to bring me another one, I didn’t know that my friend was talking to him to stop sending these packages to me because he didn’t like what I looked like, even though I wasn’t doing anything wrong when I was with him. One day, I started to drink Raki (which is one of my favorite drinks) I processed to smoke after the 2-3 glass….. It was worse than a nightmare, I wanted to vomit but I couldn’t, I started to feel very hot… Basically, I just wanted to die any moment, took me 30-40 minutes to feel normal again.

    I started to have withdrawal symptoms, I couldn’t eat for the whole day, didn’t feel hungry at all, no sleep, NO SLEEP AT ALL. I forced myself to eat when I felt hungry but I couldn’t, forced myself to sleep and I only managed to sleep 2 hours, I had energy to go out and do stuff but no eating no sleeping, I started to think about this, I searched the internet until I found this website. Now, I’m on my 6th day and I’m way better than before, I do eat like normal and I could sleep more. I’m very glad that my friend managed to help me and stop that guy for selling me those packs. I really hate this shit. I’m not encouraging people to go for the natural Marijuana but truth has to be told. I DID NOT HAVE ANY kind of problems with the natural one, it made me eat a lot and sleep like a baby. In the end, they’re just drugs. It really makes me sad and wanted to cry every time I read a story or watch a video/picture of someone being f***ed up by this horrible shit.

    I’m sorry for my broken English.

  • Some Guy

    I had a few months of using this back in 2012, assumed it was harmless and just like natural pot but synthensised.
    Affects for me were:
    No appetite
    Would get some euphoria
    Would get massive anxiety energy boosts.
    After using a bit longer:
    I would turn those anxiety energy boosts into exercise sessions
    Would train and exercise like a super human, harder and faster and more psychotically than I’ve ever known. Unfortunately I perceived this as a benefit and got very muscular and lean.
    If I did not work out after smoking it I would get heart palalpatations and thought I was going to die.
    It became addictive
    I started getting servere disassociative disorder where everything lost all meaning. I cared for nothing in the world.
    I tried to quit before I destroyed all my belongings, relationships and gave up my job.
    It insidiously relapsed as I lied to myself that I needed some more that I tricked myself into hiding some. But I had support from a couple affected work colleagues and we supported each other to all get off it.
    Normal weed has never been the same. Satisfaction from exercise has never been the same. I hope I have not carried and dissociation over with me but I suffer from depression easier these days and have to work hard to battle it.

    Evil stuff.

  • Leslie manjarrez

    Does spice effects come back in the future? For example if I stopped using spice two years ago and all of the sudden the side effects come back although I haven’t consumed spice?

  • Summer stauffacher

    Does anybody know if synthetic Marijuana causes brain tumors? I’m 15 years old and I started smoking fake when I was 13 and I smoked it for 2 years I realized what it was doing to me and my family i was the only one in my family that stop smoking it i tried to get them to stop i tried to warn them what was going to happen they didn’t want to listen to me until my two brothers died from it. We all thought Ithat was fun and games well it’s not, fake is something that people should not mess with. When I smoked this stuff I was constantly sick, throwing up, diarrhea, headaches, mood change, and depression. The withdrawals from it don’t even get me started! Anyways now I’m suffering with health issues I have stomach problems and other things but what is really worries me is my brain, what did it do to me? I have all the symptoms of a brain tumor my family doctor is going to order me a CT scan but I’m so scared I have my whole life ahead of me and just one stupid mistake that I made when I was young could be effecting my whole future if anybody knows please tell me please don’t sugar coat it because I’m 15 I just want to know if it can cause brain tumor so I can prepare myself for the worst if that is what is wrong thank you.

    And for all the people that don’t think they can get throw it, there is hope just believe in yourself and don’t give up that’s what I did just remember that there are people out there that love you even if you don’t realize it. And remember your not just hurting yourself ur hurting the ones that love you. U have a whole life to live, enjoy every moment of it.
    Love, summer

    • Marie

      My Best Friend goes thru Stages when he smokes spice , walking around like he is drunk , Crawling on floor growling and sticking out his tongue like he is the devil …Then laughing ..then needy if i try to leave ……Sometimes crying looking at tge fan like something is after him .His screams actually gave me goosebumps it was bad …I love him but it is hard to watch him like this : I told him if he values our friendship , and u don’t like that i get scared thinking he will not wake up Fucking Stop!!!!!!

    • justinvailes

      I don’t know about brain tumor, because that’s what I use to think all the time. I smoked it when I was 16 and almost died. I am now 22. Thank God I survived, but I’m not going to lie, I’ve never been the same since. I have severe anxiety that I never had before that. I mean everybody gets anxious, and I don’t think I had anxiety beforehand, but whatever that did to me really messed with my head. There needs to be more research done on it, because it’s pretty much smoking poison. It changes a lot about people, and I have a lung mutation called Cystic Fibrosis, so there’s no telling what it could have done to me even more. I don’t think it affects your lungs nearly as much as your brain – which is the largest downside. I would recommend smoking cigarettes or marijuana after I tried that it was so bad, but I’ve never smoked or done another drug in my entire life after that episode – I don’t really recommend smoking altogether, but if you’re going to I highly suggest not smoking K2 above all things. People all over the world need to be talked about it.

  • Brittney

    I need help desperately. My boyfriend’s family and I just found out he was mixing weed with spice and we think it’s been for no more than a week but he’s living in another reality, constant psychotic episodes, thinking that really terrible scenarios that never happened did actually happen, lots of curing, gagging, PLEASE HELP, we’ve cut all sources of transportation and money and he’s on strict constant watch from his parents so he will not be using it anymore, i think he is going through withdrawals on to of the psychotic episodes.. If he quits, will he ever be himself again???

    • Jeremy

      Yes he will be mostly himself again. I was a user for 3 years. Took 8 months for withdrawal. His episodes make him think he is on pergetory.

      • Brittney

        When he’s having these episodes, he often goes from saying he loves me and wants to marry me (which he would say sober), to saying he hates me and doesn’t want to be together, then saying he’s gay, then saying that I’m cheating on him with all his friends, then saying he’s cheated on me(which we proved is a hallucination) etc.. Can I safely assume that when he recovers, these thoughts won’t stay in his mind and he’ll want to stay with me since our relationship prior to this drug was amazing and very healthy and full of lots of love and care?

        • Angela Barkley

          My brother has a stroke from it. He is schizophrenic now. It’s been 4 years. Never been the same. Tries to kill himself cause he hates living like this. My advice.. could be temporary but he neeeeeds to see a specialist. Neurologist! Some professional!!! The sooner the better

        • Older woman

          Brittney, from one woman to another………never never marry a drug addict even if they go to rehab. Your life will be miserable. Please find a nice man who is drug free who can give you happiness. Do not sell yourself short. Fight for your life ..fight for your happiness. The best to you.

          • Jeff Crosby

            Not true at all older woman! I was a full blown heroin addict for 10 years and now i will be 4 years totally sober on April 28th of this year. I went to the bottom and lost everything. Now I have built myself back up and I wont even have a beer or puff a joint and I never will again! It disgusts me now what I was!! My point is that I would treat a deserving woman like gold now! So I take some offense to your statement….some addicts become better people than all these “normal” folks who drink every week and think they are ok because its legal lol…..Now because I am an addict I cannot touch any drug or alcohol and I live every day sober and to the fullest!! So Brittney can date an addict and be happy… long as he has at least 2 years sober and is serious about staying that way….lol oh also my uncle is an addict…he was on cocaine and liquor hard for 15 years… he is 23 years sober and has a great life and family so………just because the addict you knew couldnt get it together doesnt mean that none of us can!!! OK??? HAGD!! 😉

        • Adam Adam

          Umm. No str8 guy would every “confess” he’s “gay” no matter if he was on dope from a alien. He’s eithrr secretly bi, a closet case or will eventually end up with a dude.

  • Tuna

    Mojo Mondays were our thing, we would go chill on the only mountain in the city and just enjoy the euphoria for an hour or so. 4 years later (I’ll lever forget the first one) it hit and I dropped out in the store. Im diagnosed with epilepsy now but my seizures happen in the morning, if I wake up I have that extra smile because I survived. Some nights Im suicidal, yet Im lucky to have woken up; its a fucked up game i play with myself but just remember…YOLO. Cliché but true, Im violent when i have morning seizures and end up in the hospital for a week ever few months. Its rough and nobody really knows.
    But dont give up and keep fighting for legalization! Recently CBD has been helping me sleep and wake up refreshed and Im a very big proponent for legalization in the south!
    I want my life back again

    • Death

      Cold breath of death
      I hear ya I feared sleeping due to not remembering to breath. This stuff is worse than any other drug out their people. It is real and it will kill us all. I’ve died 4 times from 1 hit that was to big my wife revived me everytime and I still want it / do it. Meth I just walked away from. This got me by the balls
      Cbd does help but nothing holds a candle 2 spice

  • mona

    What are long term effects?

  • Adam Adam

    I smoked it very heavily for 2 years. For the first year I would roll it In cigar or rolling papers. After I started throwing up every single morning I would wake up to go to work l, I cut back to just using pipes. Another year and I was urinating blood. My first sign was I would have a serious pressure to pee. But could only go very little at a time. My urine started turning rust brown from the blood. The eventually clots of blood would come. Then came in my dirreah that I was having for a year straight, blood in that. I .. at that point , figured I wouldnt be alive now, 3 years later. I went to 2 urologists, 3 hospitals and a specialist with every test saying they could not find one thing wrong….REALLY!!!! WTH.. finally a urine sample came back that I didn’t just have blood but a infection in my body. I started to have the worst pains EVERY DAY in my stomach. No matter what I ate or drank. Some things made it worse than others. So I went to a Gastro dr. After 2 lower GI scopes. They determined that they must conclude I have crohnes disease.. now the Dr.s words was.. “That’s what I am going to have to call it even though you test negative for it.” “I just don’t know what else it would be.” I have several bleeding ulcers in my Colon to this day hurts me everyday. I have lasserations throughout my small and large intestions. My ex was a nurse at a local hospital who talked to a patient who was basically waiting to die from it. His kidneys where rapidly shutting down “dialisys” and he lost all control of his anus… “collosamy bag”. So will I think it’s going to eventually kill me? Yes…. “If our own government dosent first” (satire) 🙂

    • Ron

      Are you on disability or are you still able to work?

  • Please help

    Please help me. I live in Houston with my boyfriend. He is HIGHLY ADDICTED to this stuff. He buys it off the streets from all the homeless while the cops watch! The cops don’t do anything about it. I have tried to talk to him about quitting and he has tried a couple of times, but he goes right back to smoking it. He can’t admit he has a problem. I’m so worried about his health. He has terrible night sweats and a couple of times while smoking it he has vomited everywhere. He can’t keep a job, so he’s out all day and night running the roads. He can’t sleep without smoking this stuff. And when he doesn’t smoke he’s on edge. He’s constantly asking for money. I can’t take this anymore. Tell me what I can do to help him. Is there anything I can do or say to get him to stop smoking this stuff? What kind of rehabilitation places are out there for him?

    • Bella90

      Hello, what you should do is call the ambulance next time he is sick from it. They will be able to help him and hopefully give you some resources or places to contact. Good luck !

    • Another option is to call your local Marijuana Anonymous or Narcotics Anonymous group.
      Read more:

    • Stephen Agnew II

      I used to be like your boyfriend, and almost the same scenario, i’m so sorry for what you’re going through. All I can say personally is trust in GOD and pray in the name of YESHUA (JESUS) that you may be brought through what you are going through, as well as your boyfriend; for what your boyfriend is going through is deeper than just flesh and blood. I will say I smoked 7H and Diablo while stuff like k-2 and Scooby-snacks were not strong enough for my tolerance was very high for the stuff. And 7H and Diablo?? C’mon!! 7h means 7 heads and is a mockery of Revelations 13 in the Bible, when it speaks of the beast that comes from under with 7 Heads and 10 Horns; so long story short I claimed at that time to be agnostic but by fault and for the things I was doing and knew, I was a Satanist, so please, listen to me when I say Trust in JESUS CHRIST with all your Heart, Mind, and Soul, and lean not on your own understandings. I plead this with you.

    • Tim

      Quit thinking about him and start thinking about you…

    • Trisha

      I smoked k2 for seven.years im now four months clean… I used kratom its a pill at most hole in the wall stores an helps with withdrawl

    • Bash

      Listen dear
      I had been smoking and I had the same situation of ur BF, just email me on [email protected] . Can u let me know how long he has been smoking?
      U don’t need to be that much worry cus I had exactly same thing and thx god I’m fine now.

  • Dana Preston

    I saw a lot of post below saying they can’t figure out why this stuff is legal since it’s so Horrible. Maybe they are from Countries where it is Legal, but I googled the question and copy and pasted the Statement below: (says ‘illegal’, NOT legal). I knew it was ‘ILLEGAL’ in the USA, because I’m always reading how must sucide deaths are from Spice. It’s a BIG ecademic!!!

    In most countries around the world, including the United States, synthetic cannabis is illegal. Spice use is also banned for U.S. Military personnel. There are, unfortunately, some countries around the world where synthetic cannabinoids remain legal. (Dec 28, 2015)


    I smoked different forms of the synthetic stuff for about 5 years on a daily basis. I was introduced to it when I was in the military in 2009 and it seemed like no big deal. The problem is that the chemicals keep changing and they are getting much stronger and more dangerous as time goes by. After I had stopped for about a year all symptoms had left my body and I felt normal again. About 6 months after that I was smoking some weed and an individual put some fake stuff in my pipe. I was horrible to say the least but it is now another 6 months later and I am feeling a pressure behind my eye and the whole right side of my body feels different than my left. I also have issues breathing out of one of my nostrils now. I have been to the optometrist, ENT and have had a MRI of the Brain and of the abdomen. Everything came back normal. I am hoping this pressure behind the eye goes away soon. I just do not think there is anything a nuerologist can do if the MRI of the Brain comes back normal like it did. Just thought I would share.

  • Stop Synthetic

    Synthethic drug is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. I live in a small island in the Indian ocean, that shit found it way here since a couple of years. Only in 2016, over a 100 kids died from smoking that shit! YES!!! DIED!!!

    I myself am a smoker since 2 years. I managed to stop since beginning of 2016… I relapsed a couple of months ago. I live in a tropical island, where marijuana is illegal. People gets jailed for a minimum of 1 year if found with 0.5 gram of marijuana.

    Synthetic drug and heroin rules in my island.. and those shits are not even produced here!!!

    There are a lot of varieties of Synthetic drugs…. here they started to sell it by telling it is SALVIA DIVINORIUM, which is a plant.. thinking it was natural… many started smoking it… and became addicts…

    I know many rastas, who were marijuana planters, now they swear only by this SHIT!

    Kidney failure, Breathing problem, Eye problem is very common for users of synthethic drugs! NO SEX LIFE with this shit.

    You tried it? STOP IT NOW!!!!! YES you will die from it, or from health complications related to it… You WILL BECOME schizophrenic with it, there is NO WAY OUT!

    Stop it, take natural marijuana to help you if you are having withdrawal signs. Go to a doctor and get medication to help you….

    Come on, there are a lot of ways to get high…. Stop with that synthetic shit… For your own sake…

  • sayra villalobos

    I would smoke it two or three times a day.. Intell I almost died.. Only 15 years old .

  • justinvailes

    Hey I totally feel you on that. I tried it once, 6 years ago, and have never been the same since. My fake “friend” and I tried it. We’ve never spoken since. He bailed on me after words, even though I would have been there for him. Don’t worry though – just be as positive as possible.

  • James Marshall

    Im not gonna explain my story because no words on this earth will ever be able too too explain what this stuff did to my brain/mind. This is the most intence and brutal stuff in this world ! Its hard too think there is something in this world that can put you through something so brutal and intence, nothing in this world will even come close too being anywhere near how bad this stuff can get !

    • Sabrina Simmons

      James it would help those who are watching their loved ones suffer. I believe my only son is experiencing serious mental dysfunction because of it. Please share so that parents like me can understand what is going on with their loved ones.

      • guitarz777

        Hi, Sabrina, I don’t know if your son is still facing problems, but if so feel free to email me. Having been through it myself, I can tell you a lot about the addiction,the effects, the anxiety and fear that he is going through, and maybe offer some advice on what he needs to hear from you. I’m a rather private person and do not want to discuss on message boards, but would be happy to help anyone through emails. [email protected]

    • Thia

      You couldn’t of written it better
      I’m a 26 year old ( female) I smoke this stuff for 2 month none at which I really remember . Back when I was younger I remember smoking it and it wasn’t all that bad. This time I hit it once and the two months are all a blur. Attempting suicide cutting myself… Running around naked acting like a fool( this is what I’ve been told I don’t remember) I’ve been clean off this longer than I smoked it. I was a cocktail server/ bartender at a up scale restaurant now can’t be around anyone without having panic attacks.. I catch myself talking to myself. I’m finally going to get mental help tomorrow I’m just scared to hear I’ll never know that girl again. I guess this is what the mentally insane feels like. It hard to describe, but my brain just hurts all the time. (The only thing I do know is smoke weed I’ll never touch any other again) I think terrible thoughts and always want to hurt myself. This is what I believe the chemical warfare is… To destroy the weak. Sad I tried this stuff. DONT TRY IT “ONCE” CAN TAKE YOUR LIFE. I’m a prime example.

      • kill k2

        Hi I read your story I am going
        threw some similar stuff I catch
        myself talking to myself sometimes dnt worry these
        feelings that your krazy will
        pass i fink its jst side effects
        When I was smokeing I lost my
        job my family money the list
        goes on I thank god that im even
        alive truthful wat k2 does to a human being is not normal and
        the that pisses me off is the cops
        knw who and were there selling
        it & do nothing unless its worth it for them wats it ganna take does someone have to die for something to be done!!!!!
        #all lives matter
        Short term smokeing k2

  • Lori

    I am a mother who is and has experience watching my adult son use spice. He has been using for over a year. A week ago, I experienced my son vomiting and non responsive after knocking on his bedroom door. I called 911. They wouldn’t transport him to the ER. I called the second time that day, due to vomiting and he came out of his room with his arms clinched to his chest and head back with his eyes rolled back. I am looking into getting a court order to have him summit into treatment. I don’t want to bury my son. This drug should be illegal.

    • azsassygirl

      I’m sorry lori for what your going thru. Its hard when its your child. I dont have a mothers experence with spice i have an addicts experience instead. I smoke since it 1st came out in the smoke shops .till it was illegal then i went underground i knew what to say to smoke shops and which ones i knew the main person in town i knew where to go i bought thst b4 i pd bills including rent i knew every payday loan place in town. I even got it fronted because i was such a good customer . it cost me jobs my reputation and displacement from friends and family still . the whole point is THERE is nothing u can do till he wants it more then anything to quit HE will make the choice if it is not to late . rehab tough love pushiment doesnt matter . he has to need to stop on his own. Good luck to your family and remember its a disease not your fault . and when he does clean up support him he’ll need it

      • AGH

        Absolutely right^^^^^^ 100%

    • Chrystal

      I am watching my son go through this addiction as well, he will be 18 in a week. I will pray for your family , I hope he grts the help he needs.

  • J. C.

    I was smoking spice and crystal meth and had a stroke . Now the left side of my face is lazy and my left arm and hand are half the strength they use to be.

  • gandy rose

    i have never smoke but if i need ill prob would talk to my fam to help me out

  • Cynthia Levin

    I know people here have said that you shouldn’t smoke weed for a while after getting off spice. Has anyone done that and did it re-trigger the spice withdrawal? I’d like to hear from personal experience if possible, not second hand accounts. Weed is a godsend for insomniacs!

    • azsassygirl

      Weed is a godsend sometimes and yes it does trigger the need keep in mind u may not be able to get high with weed for awhile spice kills it for u . but i have a feeling u may need to try it yourself to find out . remember we’re always here

    • Tyneshra Walden

      Read your bible..Galatians 5:19-20 & Luke 9:23-25.

      • Tyneshra Walden

        I’m nt criticizing no one, but if you are going to put God in it, I want you to know the truth. He (God) did not planted the weed their for you to smoke it, the devil planted that weed so you can sin.

        • azsassygirl

          It sounds to me like you are criticizing a simple comment. This board is for addiction. And not to preach God, I suggest you go to other boards where your comments are wanted and not criticizing people asking for help, which is God’s way.

  • Ivan

    im on my 23 joint today still counting lol

  • AGH

    I smoked only the strongest blends of spice available, and I even had access directly to different strands of the ‘jwh’ in powder form to create my own blends or just sprinkle on a bowl kind of like kief. I was an everyday smoker from 2009 until 2013 with a couple short breaks here and there, maybe a day or two once or twice. I was about a year out of rehab for addiction and had just gotten married. Every bad story i hear about the withdrawal reminds me of what I also went through. Its easy to justify trying it once, and yes, the first time I tried, I actually said outloud, “ohh boy, here we go……” because i knew what was up. Didn’t matter. Smoking pot to try and curve the withdrawl wont necessarily hurt, but it doesn’t help. I had to smoke like an 8th of bud to even catch a short term feeling of relief, and u cough like ur gunna die so it makes it difficult to say the least. Once I finally quit, and I could take a REAL honest look at who Id become, I knew I wouldnt touch it again. However, Ive never been the same. Very hard to explain, but to be short, I became suicidal in my thoughts and I hid that for a long time. Through an act of God I was given access to medical grade bud thats now legal in a lot of states, and it has helped tremendously. I had no idea my fear of “relapsing” prevented me from smoking pot but pushed me into a dance with the devil through the justification of spice. Ive never had a moment I am ashamed of that was influenced or caused by pot. However, spice , and salts, gave me more shameful moments and regrets than i thought id ever have in a lifetime. To this day, I too have a stutter I never had before. I struggle to discuss my emotions and/or deal with them ESPECIALLY if im free of pot or all “drugs” whatsoever. Ive been told by my own mother that I have severe mood swings, that I dont even notice at times. But I have moments where I do see it and feel it. At 20 years old before spice I was able to navigate my words thoughts and actions better than I can at 29. To be clear, Im not talking “maturity”. Im talking psychologically. Im a single full time dad, Im starting a Hot Sauce business, I function and work hard, but I notice big gaps in my mind and my reasoning, and after reading up on it after a couple years of believing Id get past certain things, I realize now, damage has taken place and Im not sure anymore about whether or not it will return. Reading, comprehension, public speaking, life outlook, emotional stability, level of focus, none of it has been the same since. But I thank God I didnt end my life, Im grateful for each day I have with my son. But Im not even sure Im not the main reason my ex went back to dope, left us, and still tries to make our life hell. I put her through a lot. I tell people I have never smoked crack, but I know what it is to be a dope fiend(the ‘good’, bad and ugly) thanks to spice. Dont be fooled, it’s not pot. If ur looking for a similiar high look somewhere else or get over the stigma that man has put on an herb God created.

    • azsassygirl

      Bravo for you, well said i wish u would come back and update us on how your doing.

  • C. C

    I started smoking this stuff to quit weed…..but I smoked a large amounts …pounds of the stuff… kryptonite.. mr.nice guy bubble gum x4 .. black mamba was in every gas station in [email protected]@@”diablo”!!! nearly killed me from a hot dose more than once. I smoked for about a year all different kinds.. I almost died several times.. I could not feel my body more than one occasion slapping myself to stay this side of reality driving next to the hospital in case I died….i had a mental breakdown when they outlawed the stuff a real psychological freak out.. I never stopped being high .. I believe I am on a endless trip “perma fried”.pure fear comes over me… now I still fell like I am dieing 5 years later nothing helps ..can’t sleep if I sleep I sleep for days .. the panic comes over me in my sleep wakes me .. constant flashbacks ..I am fried for life .. I do my best to act normal as possible but it is a nightmare that will not end .. smoking bud mellows me out but I am a walking zombie weed can trigger a flashback.. driving can trigger it.. one episode it was 20 degrees outside I smoked a hot dose mr.nice guy bubble gum ..i went running down the street to get to a place away from my house where I thought I could die and have people other than my family find my body..its been years since I smoked the stuff and I still am trapped inside my mind feeling like death can’t focus my eyes .. people talking to me is not recognized can’t focus thought .. I have been an addict for 29 years.. i still am addicted to pills and weed ..the pills give me the only relief they calm me.. make it less nightmarish …but the synthetic weed is the worst evil man has gave to his fellow man…
    ..every day is now a struggle to focus my mind I know it’s brain damage there is nothing I can do or take or quit to stop it.. I have tried everything quitting does not stop the symptoms. I go clean every few months for a few months..try to get well nothing helps not being a year clean .. I am free of the stuff now and I can’t go out of my house .. ears ring spots float across my vision .. it’s a battle to get up daily.. if you smoke this crap .. just know what you are in for … it will kill you .. if not you will feel like death years later if you smoked as much as me.. and there is no cure.. I have spent thousands trying to detox my body I take lots of vitamins and supplements nothing reverses brain damage on this level… if there is a cure I would try it .. this hell is exceeding great…!!!!

    • Brandon Donelan

      I did the same i >_< dumbest mistake of my life

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  • Dee Dee Goldsburg

    I smoked to for a while about 6 years ago and I started having seizures and I still have them from time to time. Had I known this would damage me I would have never smoked it …I now cannot work due to my seizures and the state is taking my drivers license away…this should be banned.

  • jennifer

    can someone recover from the psychotic effects of spice. My niece had been smoking this crap and had been doing other stuff as well. she’s been clean for 5 weeks but her condition hasn’t improved but has gotten worse. Now she is having really bad psychotic episodes and they said she might need to be in assisted living. She’s only 18.

    • azsassygirl

      What else was she doing besides spice ?

    • Shanice-Rochelle .J

      effects as in what?
      seeing things? hearing things???

    • Deeznuts

      If your niece is in a state of psychosis, she needs to be properly medicated with an antipsychotic medication. The effects of spice are debilitating and may be permanent. I’ve been conducting research due to the limited amount of information regarding long term effects. But because enough time hasn’t passed (newness of the drug), it is difficult to say whether or not these problems can be fixed.

  • azsassygirl

    I I think I just read my last comment there is a place for families friends spouses girlfriends boyfriends to go and vent their comments about spice usage and addicts it’s called Al-Anon. you don’t come onto an addicts board and criticize them for their choices it isn’t your choice. If you need support because somebody you like or love is doing spice, you want information I understand that .but go through the proper channels go to the right groups. Addicts and those reaching out for help need all the support they can get , not to read other people’s criticism of it. it’s the same as being an alcoholic you would not be welcome at AA meeting you would be told to go to an Al-Anon meeting AA is for addicts only why is this different because it’s on the internet. Come on Common Sense here. you want information about the uses of spice the effects of spice the lasting effects research it online. Getting off of spice is one of the hardest things to do spice has a high level of relapse addicts need a place where they can vent and talk and share with other addicts not with my aunt is doing spice or I walked into a room I think I’m addicted to spice now they need solid support they need truths not gossip. Not half-truths I smoke spice one time and now I’m in a psychiatric hospital. my question on that is what else were you doing with the spice cuz you weren’t doing just spice. I would love to say marijuana is the magic cured to get off spice but it’s not it makes the withdrawals and the Cravings more intense. and I will be totally honest I have been clean for two years but the craving does not go away but the strength that I want is what keeps me away. I’ve relapsed twice both times I suffered for it but I’m human and I had the strength to walk away both times please think to yourself before you post. And I’ve also noticed a trend on here addicts don’t really respond to family members or girlfriends or boyfriends. Bobby posts a lot of good information that can tell you the psychological effects of spice the withdrawals of spice I suggest you read that.

  • Tyneshra Walden

    Weed does the same thing as k2, spice does. The side effects.. Vomiting, lose of appetite, depression, suicidal thoughts & ect. They both are not good for you. In the bible it says the enemy planted the bad weeds with the good weeds & God isn’t please withe neither, weed nor spice (k2). They both are illegal, they both are killing you one way or another.

    • azsassygirl

      And you are commenting on this site for what reason again?

    • jay

      Did you read the whole verse… That’s not what it means.. Yes it can be interpreted towards this BUT the verse is not against it..

    • azsassygirl

      I wanted to ask is their a reason u were reading posts in here this is not a normal website to random on and I was wondering if u needed to talk. And sometimes that’s the hardest step. I do apologize if my comments to you were a little abrupt

      religion tends to set me off.
      And so does preaching the Bible. But if you need to talk, you can always PM me.

  • Batu Chinua

    Anyone know what the long term effects of smoking the stuff does?

    • Dr Lovecraft’s

      Yes loss of appetite extreme sweating mentally feeling off.and anxiety.its hard to go back to normal eating habits.k2 is whack like crack! Stick to pot:)

    • Deeznuts

      I’ve been looking for studies for long term effects, and have spoken to several psychiatrists about it. Fact is, it is such a newly developed drug that there isn’t any documentation on the long term effects. The best we would be able to do was define possible effects.

      I’ll tell you this, I know someone who used spice for years, and now battles with severe mental illness, loss of motor control, severe cognitive malfunction, remaining in a state of psychosis, as well as debilitating physical pain. They haven’t smoked it in years, and are still dealing with the effects.

      • Batu Chinua

        I had mental health issues before smoking it but my mental health is worse and my physical is worse also… My doc has put me on a inhaler for COPD… and thats not the end of my physical problems… Im only 39 and other then being a lil over weight in good health or so the blood work says…. But… I just dont feel right…

      • Alan Crouch

        You know someone on it for “YEARS” but its such a “NEWLY DEVELOPED DRUG” um, so which is the case? Contradiction of note.

        • azsassygirl

          Spice actually came out about 15 years ago. When it first came out, you could buy it at any gas station.

          • azsassygirl

            And it was only 5 dollars, a bottle that gave you 8 grams. And it was stronger than weed. You couldn’t test for it so the popularity back, then was so high for it. State started then seeing the destruction of it. So they raced the bayonet. So the designers came up with new formulas more addictive formulas than before.With worse and worse side effects and addiction. That the government can’t find the forumal the labs can’t test it and it has an addiction as powerful as heroin, meth. And the other drugs out there , the side affects both personally, and fincially are unbelievable you lose everything important to you and it has one of the worst set of withdrawals there is . and the highest average of relapse of any drug outside of heroin. That is why it is a dangerous drug. If u want to talk ….

      • azsassygirl

        This is not a newly developed drug. The reason they can’t do any definite studies on it is because the formula keeps changing spice has been around for a very long.

  • kathy

    my son seems to be addicted to this now and is also getting a daily dose of methadone he is not doing well at all and I thought Heroin was scary.

    • Joanne Vargas

      It’s scary to mix those two I believe! I think SPICE IS WORSE THEN HEROIN!

  • azsassygirl

    Seriously, carma is a bitch. Been clean now for 2 years. My birthday, no less.pulled over for my tag expired by one day. My vehicle gets impounded. I get arrested. They search my vehicle. They found a rusted bowl pipe. In the tire, well of my vehicle. They scraped the rusted pipe and came up with .0003 grams personally not sure if it was spice or weed we don’t know. 2years clean I get arrested for drugs and car impounded for 30 days. Seriously!!!

  • Ashley

    About a month ago my “friend” gave me a brownie and said I.T was a pot brownie and that I.T was really strong, I thought it was a bad high, mild hallucinations, paranoia, and stuff but today he tells me I.T might’ve had k2 in I.T but he isn’t sure, how can I tell

  • diggininit

    I can’t believe I called the # to the side 855-652-8460 and they hung up on me when I tried to tell them my brother’s story. I am so made now. Long story short, my Brother was diagnosed many years ago as acute paranoia schizophrenic. He was in a State Hospital for many years, then moved to an assisted living center. That center just recently closed down and I knew he had smoked pot at the other center. The center he’s living at now is in an even worst location. So three months ago he walked up to a bus stop, bought what he “says” he thought was just pot. They found in on the ground, convulsing, vomiting and with a very high heart rate. They transported him via ambulance, kept him overnight. He had actually been drinking also at a bar you can walk to prior to buying this stuff off the person at the bus stop. Well, we thought he had learned his lesson. Now I am wondering if he lied to us and has been buying this all along and smoking, meaning he knew it wasn’t just regular pot. Fast forward two months later, he does it again. This time the staff found him slumped over in a chair outside, hallucinating, incoherent, paranoid and vomiting again. Again he told me he thought it was just pot and believed the guy that sold it to him. Now, I am not believing him that he thinks it is just regular marijuana. So I call this # to see if there are any support groups where he lives. They tell me to call the # on the back of his insurance card. We have already done that and they told us there was NO local support group for this type of drug. Yes, of course there is AA and NA, but he doesn’t think he has a problem. So I started asking them what would happen to him if he continued smoking this on top of the psychiatric drugs he is already on. That’s when they hung up. So, some support # advertisement.

    • I am sorry you didn’t get what you needed from our support line.

      The sad truth is there are almost no local support groups in the US thar specialize in synthetic drugs – other than AA and NA, et al.

      To clarify: the call center behind the number above is staffed with experts trained to find you or your loved one help via a detox or rehab center that treats synthetic drug users, or they will refer you to someone else. These are the most experienced team in the country when it comes to getting addiction treatment covered by your existing insurance – which isn’t easy to do, because most insurance plans haven’t caught up with the addictive realities of this drug.

    • azsassygirl

      I would contact your local narcotics, anonymous or your local alanon group for support.