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Welcome To Spice Addiction Support!

Over the last 6 years, I have personally witnessed the drug “Spice” – also called synthetic marijuana, synthetic weed, herbal incense, herbal potpourri, K2, fake weed, synthetic pot, noids, synth and fweed – go from obscurity to being sold at newspaper stands, head shops and convenience stores all around the world.

I have also seen it affect thousands of lives, including mine.

I was a heavy Spice user for over 4 years. I let it control every moment of my life. I had no idea what it was doing to me.

One day, I decided to read other people’s stories about their experiences with synthetic marijuana around the web. That was when I realized there were thousands of people out there just like me.

That’s why I decided to start this community of people helping one another overcome their addiction to Spice.

My number one goal is to help inform people about the dangers of Spice. I have been working tirelessly to put together the largest collection of information about synthetic marijuana and treatment for Spice addiction.

You can also browse this site to learn about:

I created this support group to help remind people that they’re not alone in the battle to overcome synthetic marijuana addiction.

People from all around the world have shared more than 1,000 personal stories, and countless more have used the site to gain a new perspective about recovery and the resources that are out there to help.

Unlike most forums, we don’t ask you to register with us to get help. Participation is anonymous. We use the Disqus commenting system to keep the trolls, haters and spammers at bay.

If I am able to help just one person with this site, then all of this work will have been worthwhile.

After helping hundreds of thousands of people who have come here looking for information about synthetic marijuana, I’m absolutely blown away by the helpful responses and the depth of compassion and support offered by the people who participate on this site.

Not only does this site aim to provide useful and life-changing resources for users of Spice, but we also want to help the families, friends and coworkers of Spice addicts to find help for the people they care about.

I want to personally thank you for being here. Welcome. I truly hope that you find everything you’re looking for.

I only ask one thing: if you find the help you need on this site, then please come back and return the favor. For some, there is no other place to turn.

Is Spice Addiction Ruining Your Life?

If you or a loved one are addicted to spice, call our hotline at (855)676-9691 to learn about the treatment options available to you.

What's Your Story?

If you have firsthand experience with synthetic marijuana and are willing to share your story, you can help others gain insights into their own struggle with this awful, misunderstood drug.



  • Tammy 6748

    My son is on day 5 of sobriety from spice…he was very sick …..but is today doing better…..just trying to pray and be there for him ….sending my love and prayers to all of you still on day one. Tammy st. Marys georgia

    • http://spiceaddictionsupport.org/ SpiceAddictionSupport

      Thank you, Tammy. I wish your son the best. We will keep him in our thoughts. Please, let us know how he is progressing.

      • r

        Tammy that is great. I too have watched a child struggle with this but yet choose a path TOWARD sobriety. While Spice appears to be off the table at this time- addiction and use of alcohol is an issue but this too is something he is willingly addressing. While it hasn’t been easy a lot of hope has been restored as I have seen his desire to quit and passion for life reemerge. One statement of advice if you don’t mind. If there is a relapse just remember that it doesn’t mean that his desire to quit is over. It is difficult but stay supportive. Having been there (still in some respects) I have needed to do a lot of searching on how to take care of myself so that I could be there for him. Having this struggle and seeing him regain his life has led me to personal exploration and growth trying to make sure I’m leading my life healthy and a good model in many other ways. I truly believe that the him seeing my personal growth in this time has helped him as he made these choices to rebuild his life and see that I too am willing to make changes at my stage in life. It hasn’t always been easy. I know this is just one perspective. God Bless you. That may not have been something I would have chosen to say mo.nths ago but is now part of my journey. Thank you. I sincerely will be looking for future posts

  • KellyS

    My daughter was on this junk and I had no idea at all until I found all of this information here. I got her into a drug rehab and she is much, much better now.

    Thank you so much for making this site.

    • http://spiceaddictionsupport.org/ SpiceAddictionSupport

      That is awesome! I’m glad we could be of some help for her!

  • 4 years of my life

    I’m having a terrible time with this stuff. I can’t kick it. I don’t have insurance for rehab but I need help. Bad.

    • http://spiceaddictionsupport.org/ SpiceAddictionSupport

      There are a lot of free programs like NA and AA that can help you with your addiction if you don’t have insurance or money to pay for rehab. Check them out. We wish you the best!

    • r

      God bless.

  • ness

    my boyfriend is on day 2 of being sober and he cant eat or really drink anything i’ve been giving him water and pedialite is there anything else that he could possibly put in his stomach?

    • F* Synthetic

      Sorry for the late reply, Ness. I found that very simple fruits and vegetables would stay down. Bananas, apples, carrots, cucumbers, broccoli, ect. to name a few.

      The first four or five days are the worst. I have been clean since the 27th of March and I can tell you that HE CAN AND MUST DO IT! Do not let him relapse! If he relapses all of that agonizing pain will have been for nothing at all! I know that a lot of people think this is a bad thing to suggest but, I smoked marijuana for a few days after I stopped the synthetic. Helped me cope with not having my long addicted synth weed. I was able to sleep a little too but, still not a lot. :/

      He will wake up every hour for a good 4-5 days and will be covered in sweat. I swear, man. That stuff was worse than kicking my Oxy habit from four years ago.

      I was addicted to a very nasty blend called “Mr. Kosh” and there were DEFINITELY more compounds in that blend other than synthetic cannabinoids. I assure you that. It is the same for many other blends… I think that’s why the withdrawals very from blend to blend and person to person so much.

      • ness

        Thanks for the reply…the day after I posted I ended up taking him to the ER he kept shaking and and dry heaving I was afraid of him passing out I really wouldn’t have been able to help him if he did(he’s 6 foot 7 and I’m only 5 foot) they gave him medicine for the nausea so he was able to eat and he’s starting to become the person I fell in love with again but its still a struggle for him. He started smoking this crap because he was put on probation and couldn’t smoke weed anymore or I would have tried that. The doctor in the ER even said marijuana was way better but he was not condoning it. Thanks again for the reply.

        • him

          Hiw long was he sick I’m in day three and still puking

          • ness

            He was sick for about a month but the medicine the doctor gave him helped a little with the nausea so he could eat

          • dre

            How Long Was He In The Hospital?

          • Annie Reily

            It just depends on your body mine lasted bout five days.

    • Annie Reily

      I could only eat chicken broth and soup . That is good with the water and pedialite cause he needs to stay hydrated.

  • Shanna

    My husband is on day three of cold turkey quit. What should I expect? I just found out he’s had this problem for the last 2 years

    • Annie Reily

      Everyone is different but withdrawls will come if he has been doin it for over 2 years. Vomiting, diarrhea , and mood swings are the most common. Just make sure he stays hydrated and eats even though he may not want to.

  • charlie

    Man I don’t know what to say. I’m a mother a wife a Sunday school teacher..and secret spice addict. I feel ridiculous and I’m lying to my husband..im smoking at least 5 grams a day for the last three years. I’m on day two of stopping I feel like I’m going to die. Never even did drugs thank god! But this has got me feeling like a crack head..i feel horrible any suggestions?

  • IMANIDIOT2

    I was on the same sh*t! Mr Kosh those f**king a**holes. I never had withdrawal symptoms until I switched to their product. They are putting amphetamines in their product! I know this because I had to be hospitalized when I ran out last week. Went through the same thing everyone else is. Almost died from dehydration! I couldnt believe it when the Dr came in and told me i had amphetamines in my system. I’m not that kind of person. I just wanted to find an alternative to marijuana. This company has to be stoppped!

  • Stay-C

    Can anyone help me please. I’m struggling big time with this stuff. I’m laying here in bed crying. I’m so sick of this stuff. It controls me and my Life. My loved ones hate it and hate me on it But I still continue to do it even when I really don’t want to. It’s just become my way of Life now for the last year and now going into year two. This affects my Life with my husband and my kids. I hate that I’m addicted to such chemical bullsh*t. Please what can I do to make this easier on myself and my family? And How can I stay @ work thru this withdrawal??

    • Hector

      Smoke grade A Marijuana. it helps relieve the nausea n sleep at night.. 100% organic

  • Nancy

    My boyfriend stopped smoking k2 after he started throwing up constantly. He threw up a lot for about a week, & now he can’t be In the sun because he starts feeling bad and getting dizzy. He constantly has migraines, and he just feels terrible. He keeps getting such negative thoughts. I just don’t know what to do ! Any advice ? Should I take him to the hospital ? Will he get in trouble for smoking it since it’s illegal ??

    • Billybob

      I was throwing up too when I finally quit. Probably get an anti depressant from dr during the withdrawals? You wouldnt get in trouble for going to a hospital, but im not a lawyer.

    • Sydneygoesrawr

      I just stopped myself and went through the same things IT WILL PASS HE WILL BE FINE JUST STAY STRONG AND PUSH THROUGH GUYS!!!

  • RandomGuy099

    It took me about three days attached to a couch and some nyquil for about three days before I was able to finally get through this. Also, I was way better off smoking the real thing.

  • Kman

    Thanks for this site. This is not easy and most folks do not understand the addiction. Even addicts. New bad drugs. Fully capable of ruining your life.

  • jen

    I’m looking for advice on how to help my son with his addiction to synthetic marijuana. He has been to rehab and has stopped and started on and off for the past couple of years. the longest he has been clean from it has been 3 months. He is a total zombie when he smokes and has passed out and his hands get really rigid and curl up. He becomes easily agitated and very angry. He says he wants to stop but doesn’t seem to be putting forth the effort. He has a support system that cares for him deeply we just have not a clue on how too. I have thrown away pipes and dumped bag after bag of it when I have found him passed out with it laying out, I have also taking it right out of his hand we have had argument after argument. I have tried tough love it doesn’t seem to work. We lost my oldest sonbrother to a heroin od last year and I feel that I’m going to loose him to this. So if anyone has any advice for me it would be greatly appreciated.

    • Hector r

      Mam I was an addic for 4 yrs smoking all day every day even at work. Until I finally told my parents I was addicted I suggested to them to lock me inside the house with locks n take away my cash fones. Wallet. N to let me a smoke s little marijuana to help with the the withdrawals… After 3 days I came down like a touched down to earth… N I promised I will never touch it again I’ve been sober for 7 month now n never again… hope I can help u

  • Joe

    I really want to stop it’s really f**king with my financial stature, but it is difficult, with the withdrawal symptoms being extra hell and taking a puff can make that go away . Does anyone have remedies or
    Medicines to heal/mimic the spice cbs
    Im really worried I may have perminant damage started smoking about 4-5 years ago. Thank you everyone we can all overcome this sh*t.

    • Annie Reily

      Always no matter what stay off it I know the withdrawls are bad but just han in there. Staying hydrated and eating what you can will help I promise and they will go away and joe stay on here and talk to us we all know what you aer going thru.

  • John – let me suffer for you..

    I am what we call an extra careless individual…..I felt invincible, like I know what I’m doing and would never be stupid enough to get into trouble…Wrong, after 13 years of regular pot smoking I decided to try 5 grams of the pure synthetic synthetic cannabinoid: AB- Chminaca. Within 2 weeks this substance nearly destroyed my life, my mind was blown at how potent it was and my body kept smoking it compulsively to the point where I consumed the 5 grams in under 2 weeks. Keep in mind 1 mg was enough to get me beyond stoned. While I had some troubling times smoking the chemical; comatose, feelings of psychosis paranoia, voices, extreme hallucinations that my hair was electrical and would shock me. Needless to say I was falling into delirium nightly, well the troubles REALLY started when I ran out of all the grams; starting with a migraine, a migraine to end all migraines, I was vomiting at and sight or sound. This persisted for 2 days all the while I began losing fluids and could not replace them, no desire to eat and my body flooded with sweat or shivering cold, depending on the situation. I felt as if I was going insane, deign, and I did this all alone without anyone helping me, I DO NOT SUGGEST THIS, I battled with extreme psychotic episodes, I thought of cutting myself just to see what would happen, I would hear people plotting against me and all I could do was pray, cry, and try and keep my mind occupied so time would pass. 3-4 days passed and the withdrawals finally began to subside, I cried for joy and thanked God, yet my troubles were far from over…. I have had a slew of after problems nearly 4 weeks since the incident; the most notable being what seems to be a damaged or frazzled Central Nervous System, I feel weak trying to use my arms and legs and I feel as if I did something to my CNS to cause this. My legs have progressively gotten weaker and feel as if muscle is almost dead inside. I am also suffering from coordination and balance issues, simple word recall, panic attacks that I didn’t get before, high blood pressure which is typically not the case for me. I feel it’s f**ked my hormones causing me to be overly emotional and weep and not be able to control myself….This is just a small sample of the new problems I’ve had to endure and for God’s sake if you value. respect or enjoy your body IN THE SLIGHTEST, don’t put this vile trash inside yourself and pay money to harm yourself. You may read this and go “Not me man, i’m not stupid, I can never get hurt, I know what I’m doing,” But I promise, Sometimes this spice sh*t lets you get two feet in the grave before you even know you’re there. Be safe everyone, I pray for everyone attempting to win the battle, Much love and Fight on!

    • Hal

      I have not smoked K2 for going on 3 years now. Unfortunately, I have suffered major muscle damage, most notably in my abdomen and legs. I went to Johns Hopkins at the first onset of problems and the neuro-muscular specialist there were perplexed. I had multiple EMG’s which were dirty…meaning abnormalities all over my body. I had a lumbar puncture (spinal tap) which was normal. I also had a spinal angiogram which was also normal. The last test I had was a nerve and muscle biopsy which showed denervated fibers (weakness/atrophy). I had told my neuroligist about my K-2 consumption that lasted for about 2 years and he told me that there was not enough info on the use of the drug and he could not verify that the drug was the culprit. Every single day for the last 3 years, I experience muscle spasms to also include full blown Charlie Horses and the muscle relaxers that my docs have prescribed have 0 effect on me. I take Vicodin and Gabbapentin which help control the muscle burn and that is helping some. I have seen 10 doctors and none have any answers.

      • John

        I am so sorry Hal, I had shorter exposure overall to the synthetics and hope that it’s reversible I truly sympathize and pray that you recover; albeit not as quickly as you would like. The girl who was supposedly paralyzed from a stroke/seizure from spice has began to move again. This seems hopeful and I pray you will experience a full recovery. If you need someone to talk to let me know, I am happy to discuss it further.

        P.s I suffer from a nervous disorder naturally; an un diagnosable form of demylinating neuropathy, so I’ve suffered with this kind of thing most my life ( really week legs and arms and extreme atrophy, I am 30 and been compared physically to an 80 year olds body….in short I’m here if you need someone who understands to talk to, much love, prayers and positive energy your way. Keep your chin up and take it one day at a time.

      • Terra

        I got an answer for ya… Pray to JESUS!! I know that’s the only way that u won’t have to go through this ever again.. Read Mark 11:22-25

        • Annie Reily

          Amen terra!!!!!!!!!!!! I just recently became a Christian and it has worked wonders for me.

  • Kiettas29

    My boyfriend has been addicted to spice for 3 1/2 years. I’m so tired of it. At one time he was spending hundreds of dollars a month on it. I have tried being nice, firm, intolerant , and indifferent… None of those work… This sucks and I’m fed up. We are supposed to get married but I won’t do it if he continues. He’s lied about how many times he was going to quit. We’ve been together for 8 yrs but I don’t want to go on like this. He zones out, forgets conversations he’s currently having, he laughs for no reason, nobody likes him on spice. He sleeps all day… Please help

    • Anonymous

      OMG…I could’ve written this myself. I knew something was not right with my bf and I gave him every opportunity to come clean. I finally got fed up and went to his car. All I had to do was open the door and there were empty spice packets all over the floor. I knew it. He was behaving the same way you described. I tried to kick him out he wouldn’t leave. He wound up passing out and I called his family for help. We have him under house arrest right now. No car, no wallet, no keys. But bc he is over 18, he cannot be committed against his will. He is out of control. We have no idea how to help him. I feel like I betrayed him by calling his mom. But after looking into what this drug can do to a person, I would rather have him hate me than watch him kill himself. This was so hard for me to do. But I have to keep reminding myself that I did not do this to him, I did it FOR him.

      • Annie Reily

        Good for you to stand your ground and ofcourse he is going to think you betrayed him I thought the same thing when it was done to me but after the smoke cleared I realize there were a lot of ppl that careda bout me. You are right you did it for him and if he reacts in anger just know it is the drugs and not really him.

    • Annie Reily

      Girl there is no reason why you should hve to put up with it and I know you love him but you may want to think about leavin I know that sounds harsh butttt you have your own life to live and. trust me there is no life with a drug addict it will nev.er change. Be firm and tell him you are leavin who knows he may wake up and realize that he is losing a great person and quit if not well then atleast you tried and can o on with your life.

  • Ty

    Holy f*ck. What plague is this? Been addicted since early 2011, a few months on and off, I figured I was in control of it but apparently I wasn’t. This continued up to February 2014, and I have been a daily user from February-July, in what I have noticed is the longest synthetic binge I’ve ever had the displeasure of going through. So now I am at breaking point, at the end of every bag I tell myself no more, that’s the last one, and f*ck me the last one really was. I’m tired of wasting hard earned money on the s**t. I’m tired of the fatigue, mood swings, and irritability. So I am in morning of day 4, and I haven’t eaten anything in these 4 days. I have has severe nausea, morning sickness, vomiting (which is impressive considering I have no sustenance inside me) severe lack of appetite, extreme fatigue, excessive sweating, fever and chills, shortness of breath with the most simplest of physical activity. I’ve gone to the doctor and they drew blood waiting to hear back, I told her I wanted my kidneys and liver checked for any kind of failure, I’ll update once I hear back on results. This is so awful, my family is concerned about my health problems and what is so sh*tty is that I literally have not one soul I can run to for help. I’ve been doing this behind closed doors and in secret for years, my girlfriend knows something is wrong, she knew when I was high, but I would just brush it off and tell her I just wasn’t feeling well. She doesn’t suspect I am secretly struggling with this powerful addiction.

    So I just had to take a break from typing to vomit again. Anyways, I’m going to try and eat some apples and bananas, fruits are probably the easiest thing to stomach. I hope I remember this blog so I may continue to update, hopefully I can find some peace. Just a quick question, how long will withdrawal symptoms keep going?

    • desperate mom

      I m SO sorry to read what ur going thru. PLS hang in there and DO NOT GO BACK. My 20 yr old son has been on a binge and i m terrified for him. He s had the horrible symptoms u des ribe and keeps goig back to smoking. He began stealing to support his habit and landed in jail for.4 months then was sent to a state run behavior modification run by the prison system. He s only 20 and used to be a basketball star … never even had a drink in his life but at 18 he My email: [email protected]. Thanks. GREAT talking to u. Have a nice weekend. :)got addicted to this poison. Upon release, they sent him toa halfway house and everyone therew as smoking k2. He stayed away from it for 2 months and then relapsed. Began smoking again and ended up in emergency room which he left. I found him several days later walking down a street very disoriented and looking like a homeless a person. Now he s home and destroying our home again with his smoking and. Stealing from me to buy the poison. He smokes 24 hrs day and no hospitaL or EMS will take him if he doesnt want help. What can i do to make him stop? I ve never even smoked pot so I m at a loss at to how to help him. I can only give him shelter and watch him and feed him when he will eat. He has no friends left. He s all alone except for me. His father doesnt care and we ve been divorced for 16 yrs. I m desperate. Desperate mom…

      • Chris Gentry

        my best advice for you is to keep telling him he is addicted and if he continues it’ll only get worse i’m on day 2 of detoxication and i can say this your son is being taken over by it it controls your mind to the point you can hardly function he is the 1 who has to make that choice cause you can’t just stop cause it makes you think your body and mind need it i hope i was helpful

    • Terra

      Tell ur girlfriend!! I did the same thing and tried to hide it but guess what I got caught and I am at day 3 and I am going through everything u are anf some but man I’m so glad I told my husband the truth and addmitted I stole and everything but I tell u what if I didn’t have him I would be alone and that would suck

    • Annie Reily

      Just keep staying off it I know the withdrawls are terrible but they will stop belive me!!!!!

  • Rt

    Quitting was the best thing I ever did. The detox is so hard but it is WORTH IT. I have my life back! I have been addicted for several years smoking every single day constantly. Please be strong and quit. I promise you will feel amazing once the detox is over (which I know is complete hell) Please please please just stop, throw it all away and try to have a sober friend that you trust help you. This stuff destroys your mind and body. Drink lots and lots of water if you are detoxing try to stay hydrated and go to the hospital if you have to. I cant stress enough how much it destroys you and you cant even realize until you stop. The horrible fear depression and anxiety will go away, your memory will come back, you will have motivation to do things again! Food tastes better (when your appitie finally comes back) everything is better and clear again. Get out of the fog, I know its hard. I know how it hold you, it makes you think you NEED it but you are so much more than this drug. Be strong <3

    • Swheat Betty

      I smoked every day for a couple of years and I have been off of it for about 5 monts now… When will I feel normal again and when will I not want it any more?

      • Annie Reily

        I had someone tell me that spice is just as addictive as meth although I have never tried meth I do belive it. The sad part is you may never not want it but that doesn’t mean you should start back and bravo for the 5 months that is great. Just keep it up!!!!

  • Hal

    I have been clean for 3 years. The damage done to my body is still with me. I have severe muscle atrophy in my left abdomen and have muscle weakness in my legs and to a lesser degree, in my arms. I have seen 10 doctors between Johns Hopkins and University of Maryland School of Medicine. None of my doctors can give me an affirmative diagnosis, as they have told me that there just simply is not enough research on the use of K2. I failed an EMG test, but passed the nerve conduction portion. I also had a nerve and muscle biopsy that showed denervated fibers (muscle weakness) and have passed all other test. I have been subjected to more needles than I care to talk about, some of which were up to 5 inches long.
    If my story is similar to anyone please post. I have not been seen by any Hopkins docs in almost 2 years and I am not having any luck finding many stories like mine. Most stories I have read, usually involve death and heart attacks from smoking K2. The only thing close to my situation that I have read are people suffering muscle twitched, which I wish were the case for me, as I experience full blown Charlie Horses every day and muscle burn and spasms.

    • Chris Gentry

      i’m experiencing this right now as we speak my elbows turn bright red and i feel my muscles in my forearms become stiff

    • kickinthisshizz

      I’m not sure if its the smoke that’s making my muscles tense up, lock up, throb, and just straight go into a twitching fit, but I’m assuming it is. I started smoking the fweed 2 years ago and probably about a month after starting till this very day ive had pain in my left hip and thigh muscle I can barely walk some days and sitting isn’t an option on other days. Running? Ha only in my dreams, and after coming off this, u don’t sleep much. I know I probably wasn’t much help but I honestly believe that the smoke is what has caused my muscles and what feels like my bones to just give up on me. Just wanted u to know u are not alone.

    • Terra

      Wow I didn’t even realise this but I get full blown charlie horses in my calves everyday to.. I was doing this stuff called H7 and I am at day 3 of withdrawls I can’t stop shaking or throughing up my nerves are all out wake I get sharp pains in my arms and all over then everytime I through up my whole body cringes up to the point u can’t even move its like my body can’t function at all

  • weedwacker

    Hy guys

    I’ve been smoking this stuff daily for about 4 years. I was off 2 times for about 2 months in that time, and I thought it was fairly easy to quit, and I haven’t noticed any negative effects on my body, so I just kept on doing it. Last month I bought the new stuff AB- Chminaca, which turned out to be pure hell. No joy, just paranoia, anxiety and stuff like that. When I finished the 10g powder in 2 weeks, the withdrawals ware a nightmare. Vomiting, sweat, insomnia, depression. This lasts about 5-6 days, and if you go through it, it starts to get better. Yes, your muscles feel funny, you have no power, and no mood, but these are temporary. I write this to give hope and strength to people. Don’t worry, after the right amount of time you will be ok, without any long term issues. Right now I’m off for 2 weeks, I have about 3g of AKB-48 in my in my drawer, and I’m not throwing it away, just to know that I’m strong and I’m not going to smoke it. I feel getting better every day, and I think I’ll go back to smoking weed occasionally in a month or so. I’ll smoke in the weekends, like I did before getting hooked on this Spice sh*t 4 years ago. Also in my opinion, it is easier to quit if you have a weeks supply of weed, that makes the withdrawal a lot easier.
    So if you want to quit, don’t be afraid, it’s just one week of pain, and after that you’ll feel like a new man. Be strong!

    • Terra

      Oh my gosh.. I am 3 days into withdrawl.. I quit because my husband video taped me and showed me how out of it I was and I have a 5 yr old son who depeneds on me.. I can’t eat, cant hardly sleep, can’t even drink water without throughing up or Sh*t my pants when I cough or piss myself I have only been doing it for about a month and I stole to get more I have almost lost my family because of that stuff.. I was doing this stuff called H7 which is no joke that stuff makes u like a zombie but u don’t realize it at all u loose time by passing out.. I cant stop shaking, confussion.. I feel like I’m dying so what should I do now? Should I go to the hospital..

  • blu

    Ive decoded so many times from this drug and it keeps bringing me back…ive spent so much money and time wasted on the delusion that this ”high” was just what I needed. But its destroyed me. I suffered a terrible concussion about two years ago…. not to long after I started smoking spice. Ive had every reaction including terrible trips that put me in the worst place. Today I’ve decided to change my direction, god I hope I can finally get the support and love needed to make it through such an experience. It is never too late to turn back….

    • Robin Wright

      Would you please be more specific about what you are going through. My ex fiance, also suffered from a concussion and started smoking this stuff AGAIN, prior to the concussion he would smoke just about every day. He stopped smoking for about two months later. Now he is accusing me of having sex with the guy who cuts my hair as well as the doctors I work for. I just couldn’t take it anymore, so I left. Please go more into details so that I may understand what going on in his head. Thanks

    • Terra

      Well let me tell u about myself I started doing this stuff called Twilight 3 weeks ago which wasnt as bad but u still get sick from it u don’t realize what it does to u.. it makes u think u just got the flue or something then I got some stuff called H7 about a week ago almost it was stronger, too strong because u loose time u pass out on it and I left my 5 year old son at school all day so my husband ended up having to pick him up at 6pm because I was out of it.. That was like last week.. I got caught by my husband and he dumped out the new bag then I was like super sick throwing up all day & night crapping or pissing myself everytime I would cough.. I had to go steal money out of our bank to get more the next day it was horrible I then smoked some and felt better… So anyway that only lasted about 1 1/2 days $20 I still didnt know it was making me sick.. I just got my brother on it too now friday my last day smoking was a few days ago.. Sat early morning that was like one bowl that I got my brother to buy just so i could do some of it too.. Anyway what drew me to u blu was that u asked GOD could help u with loved ones and support well let me tell u something there is no way I could get through this without GOD because He is with me.. I was so sick I can’t eat I can hardly function.. today is day 3.. The first day was super hard that was like non stop all day & night long throwing up, sweating, not eating not keeping even water down, yesterday/today is a lot easyer except I cant sleep all day now because I’ve been praying non stop yesterday for the LORD JESUS to forgive me and take away this pain and u know what I’m way way way better yeah I still throw up a few times today like the most 5 but I can get up move around did some laundry and u know I couldn’t get out of bed at all… Just gotta believe that He will take it away and u will be better no joke okay!! BLU ur going get through this with me!! We can do this together okay u just gotta ask the LORD JESUS CHRIST who died on the cross and came back to life on the 3rd day and He is alive forever more.. U don’t happen to have a bible do ya? Read Mark 11:22-26 okay now what that says is u gotta believe without a doubt that whatever u ask for in pray believing that the LORD will give it to u.. Now if u pray and u believe with ur heart that he will give it to u then u will have it… Now I know this sounds weird to most folks but I am walking proof right here I feel like 10xs better now then I did.. THANK YOU JESUS this nightmare is over and I am back to my self again.. So PRAY RIGHT NOW!! Ask for forgiveness and u will be healed when u pray okay. Listen the devil is going to try to lie to u and tell u that ur to gone that u got given to many chances that’s a lie as soon as u feel that in ur mind u say ,”I rebuke u Satan in the name of JESUS CHRIST!!! If u got to scream it out.. U just keep praying all day and I am telling u cry to Him.. He will be there… GOD Bless Blu!! Love u!!

  • Kerry

    Hi,

    I am not a spice addict. But I enjoyed JWH-018 for a while a few years ago. And nostalgically researched for the latest research chemicals.

    I read how potent AB-Chiminaca was. 12 days later I had to quit. And I did 1 gram of powder over 2 weeks not 10 grams like weedwacker.

    – quote –
    Vomiting, sweat, insomnia, depression. This lasts about 5-6 days, and if you go through it, it starts to get better. Yes, your muscles feel funny, you have no power, and no mood, but these are temporary.

    I went through all this. And loss of appetite. I am on day 8. I feel for you man, 10 grams. 1 gram and I am still in withdrawal.

    I am not addicted however, because I have no desire to ever touch this or any other synthetic cannabinoid again. EVER.

  • Tyler12345

    I’ve smoked k3 homemade for about 1 year. My friends puke blood and have bleeding ulcers. It’s horrible. I didn’t like it at first I tripped so bad I was scared. But I’m a young teen stupid an dumb. Didn’t a couple more times till I got used to it. Then started puking sweating getting withdrawals. Smoke like 4 5 grams a day. Today I am quitting. I promised my mom and grandma an friends I won’t do it anymore. Please don’t try k2 k3 or whatever. It’s like heroine! It takes your life away slowly.

  • Tyler12345

    I’m telling you people this now. If you can’t eat. Eat fruit. Whenever I ate food I puked it up fruit is the only option.

  • Kerry

    Hi,

    Just want everyone to know. I made a full recovery from AB-CHIMINACA.

    I don’t believe heroin could be any harder to quit. I am so happy that I am healthy again. I though, at the time, that continued consumption would kill me.

    • http://spiceaddictionsupport.org/ SpiceAddictionSupport

      So great to hear that, Kerry. (For some reason we missed your post).

      How are you doing now?

  • [email protected]

    I used for a long time, I havent used fweed in almost a year… I have a very long story, I almost lostvthe live of my life… my home my car… and my money, the worst of it all is i hurt those closest to me, my addiction to fweed knew no boundaries. ..

  • John

    After more than two months from my crisis I am finally getting back to normal. I have regained my strength, sanity/mental clarity and the incident has inspired me to quit natural weed; It has also made quitting weed a lot easier. When I start having cravings or feeling down I just think back to how horrible my 5 gram pure AB-Chminca experience was and the cravings for natural weed feels so small and trivial in comparison. I’m practicing mindfull awareness and cognitive behavioral therapy, utilizing better eating, exercising and using my newfound sobriety to be productive. There almost always is a silver lining to horrible experiences, find yours and embrace it! I wanted everyone suffering through this hell to know that I am thinking about you; I pray you can get through it and find your peace and happiness. If you press on it WILL get better and remember you’re not alone in your suffering.

    • Joaquin

      Thank you for that, especially the God and prayer part! I feel ashamed to be a Christian doing this. I don’t go to any church, it would probably be a worse feeling if I did. I hate that I felt I needed this more than God at times. I found a roach of it yesterday and smoked it. I have to travel far to get it, so it’s been a week since buying it. Apart of me still wants it badly but I’ve had a lot of bad side effects from it, lost a job, the nausea and sweating is killing me right now. I’m getting better since I quit a week ago, feeling is coming back to me slowly. I felt like shell of my former self before using, life had lost a lot of zest and now it’s time I learn from my mistakes and turn back to “:The Most High”. Thanks for all the prayer people out there. God please help us!

      • jet

        God bless you!

  • hopeful

    I have been addicted to spice for almost a year now. It is horrible I spend $30 a day and have lost everything to get it. I can’t go more than twenty minutes without smoking. I am currently trying to stop and I am so moody tired and just plain hateful. It is the worst feeling ever! I wish I would have never started. Everyone I know who does it is the same they just can’t stop. What is it that hasthe hold over us?

  • shawn

    I’ve been sober for a month now and still have major attacks I refuse to brag about how much I did but it has taken its toll on me I get really depressed because it seems like the symptoms are haunting me it’s just not fair I quit I’m done why can’t it just stop I have trouble at work its disrupting my whole life it seems I was doing 20x better on spice but if I see it or smell it I puke and shake really hard instantly horrid withdrawals that last all day when I went to the hospital they put binds on my hands and we’re trying to send me to a mental hospital I’m 22 I cry every night because I feel so trapped my family is scarred of me they think I’m still on it I have no one but my girlfriend to talk to or comfort me I just found this website just looking for some emotional support hospitals want to lock me up parents are scarred to be in a room with me friends all left from before because I was a zombie just need some help

    • Darcy

      Your story really touched me. Just stay strong. Your mine and boby will connect if you know what i mean. I am a recovering addict from other stuff. Time will heal all.

    • wife

      this is what i was looking for. my husband was addicted hes on his third day quitting and i woke him up tonight ” hey wheres the phone…hey! i neede the phone!where is it. ” shaking him to wake up. he wakes up ,eyes real big , veins from his neck popping out , face real red,holding on to the bed,,screaming” NOOOO! pleaes e dont . IM SORRY IM SORRY! ” like if hes in a dream he was having this big panic attack like if he were high on that stuff . he was praying” please God please help me! . ” it was so scary he told me “please help me just hold me i feel like im dying! ” then after that terror stage he was real happy jumping ” i can walk! i can walk see!” then he was smiling laughing ( like if he were high, not real lol but just a gentle laugh) .
      i dont think he smoked it but i was just wondering if there was side effects after u quit that include hallucinating like that. and i guess there is. because i smelt his breath and it didnt smell like that ugly stuff.. which normally it would …

      hope this was helpful. i think only God can help you when your dealing with this devil drug.

      • Ms. Pat

        I am going through the same thing with my son. He has been talking for about three hours and there is no one in the room with him. He will be laughing and then he starts screaming at someone and it sounds like he is on the phone. It is going to be a long night.

        • scarednalone

          My boyfriend is going through withdrawls right now. I gave him some benadryl and a all natural sleep aid. He is asleep now, but its restless. And he has his head in my lap. Im uncomfortable, but if this helps him, just me stroking his head while he sleeps, i will do it all night.

  • Worried

    I am a very worried mother… please could anyone tell me what the physical signs are if you are smoking ‘legal high’.

    • jhizzle

      The smell. The smoke has a very distinct smell and you can check by smelling breathe or clothes. It also lingers.

      • scarednalone

        Pretty much the same symptoms of heroin, slurred speech, nodding off, stumling, leaving every 20minutes to smoke more, it even causes gi problems.

  • Joaquin

    Wow, I have been stuck here for hours reading. One point that really frightens me is the stories of health issues. I think it has to do with the intense body high you feel. I’ve tried a few things in my day but never anything as strong as spice, nothing really seems even close to describing how it makes you feel. Instantly straight to the moon in a hot air balloon. Maybe I can say it feels kind of like your so drunk, enough to pass out almost without feeling sick, but even that doesn’t do it justice.
    The instantness of it hits you like a ton of bricks, feeling as though you’ve been smoking good pot for an hour or something. It’s the intensity that gives me the rush, it allows me to instantly escape reality when life gets hard. That being said I’m not trying glorifying it but just so people can understand this drug. A lot of the entries are people who don’t understand it but would like to help those they love who are addicted. Let’s admit it we are using to escape reality not recreation or any other lie we tell ourselves. The problem is that this drug is very self destructive and forces you to face reality, If this drug was safe many of us would never even consider letting go. As a drug user sometimes we just wanna be stoned out of our mind and let everything else be, to let the cares of this life care about itself for awhile, while I’m over here thinking I’m taking a much needed break. Problem is the problems are still there, they just got even bigger while I was over there getting stoned.
    Lastly back to my first point of the health issues. The intense high MUST be frying our brain and whole body. Only God knows at this point. There is NO WAY a drug can get you as high as spice without taking a very heavy toll on you. I quickly realized that, many of the health problems and side effects described here I have shown symptoms of myself and it sucks. I work construction and need all the strength I can get too. I put myself through hell and for what, a cheap bag thrills leading to an early grave? It boggles my mind the prices I’ve paid so far for, I don’t even wanna make the grocery list of things I’ve paid thus far. I really needed to read this stuff to convince me that this isn’t over yet and I will be victorious.

    • jet

      Amen!

  • Cindi

    I can’t believe I found this site. What a godsend. I have been searching for this for almost a year. My husband was introduced to Spice in 2008 and it has slowly developed into a serious addiction and I sent him this link. I am considering divorce. I can’t stand the thought of him tearing our family apart but I can’t live with this craziness.

    • Joaquin

      It is crazy sista, I felt like I was about to go to hell the 1st time I took this drug. It was weird, my hands felt like they we’re on fire almost. I had pray just to get the panic attack off me. Why I kept doing it is beyond me? The Devil like man made drugs they destroy so quickly. Pray about it, it’s serious, it’s your life!

  • denoned1010

    i have been using spice since 2008, regularly everyday. as of 2 days ago my wife made me leave our home. i do not blame her. the rage, the lack of being aware of whats really going on while youre on it. the pawning the stealing and putting my family second. spice has consumed all priorities.i have been through all of the symptoms that people have described. the longest ive gone without it has been 3 days ( a very very hard 3 days). the sweats, anger, depression, shakes, not being able to eat and vomiting.im attempting to quit again. its day 2. tomorrow i will take a 26 hr bus ride to a state where it is not sold. i am dreading the ride but i have to get my family back. if it isnt too late. you will lose everything with this stuff, mainly your sanity and health.i get to where i cant articulate sentences. i feel very depressed right now but i have a very patient sister to help me. i hope i can mend my past mistakes. please dont let this stuff ruin your life . dont do it.

    • wife

      my husbands brother is going through the same thing . i hope u were able to quit. its a big deal . pray!

    • gsteph719

      Your story sounds much like mine. Spice is sold all over Texas, namely Houston and surrounding areas. I moved in with my sister in Louisiana where it is TOTALLY banned, so as not to risk the temptation. I’m dealing with depression and all right now, suicidal thoughts and everything else people are writing about the withdrawals from it. Good luck with your recovery.

  • relieved95

    Wow! I’m so happy I found this website. Its been 2days sence I last smoked n I’ve been smoking for about a year now. I started because I got on probation for position of weed. I still wanted to get high so I started smoking spice so it wouldn’t come out in my drug test. I was on probation for 9months n now that I’m off of it I can’t stop smoking spice. Now that I see alot of ppl dealing with the same problem as me it kinda makes me feel like this wrld is nothing but sh*t. I lost everything I had n I got kicked out of two of my homes because of it. The way to get rid of the addiction is by detoxing urself. Right now its about to be 3am n i can’t sleep because I need to smoke. But how long does spice stay in ur system? The only thing I have in mind is going out to buy a detox now since I found out how to get rid of the addiction. Thank this website it has helped me get some shit outta my mind. U all take care n god bless

    • gsteph719

      Go oneline or to your local health food store and buy a big bottle of Bentonite. It is a type of liquid clay-like substance that binds toxins and excretes them out of your system. BE SURE TO DRINK PLENTY OF WATER TO HELP WITH THE CLEANSING. You might even get a little nauseated, but that’s because of all the toxins coming out of your system.

  • sugerbugger07

    OI I am in the floor with my husband.I herd him laughing from our bed room and he slid off the couch in to the floor and curled up and was just laughing. I’m so terrified….. I finally go him calm. He’s sleeping with me sitting watching him right next to him. I asked him to never do it again after almost hitting me last year…….update hes moving around and he was able to say uh huh when I asked if he was okay.

  • Quitnow

    I have been a user of synthetic Marijuana now for just over 4 years now, I quit 2 and half weeks ago and am still struggling with sleep and anxiety, eating etc…. I’m am so happy that I made the decision to quit when I did, I had no idea how badly this drug was effecting me until I had stopped, constantly vomiting and struggling to even keep down water, food was definitely out of the picture for the first week due to withdrawals, I am still having a difficult time now 2 and half weeks in, all I know the amount of pain I been in and have put my family and friends through I never want to touch that sh*t ever again. Make the change sooner than later people the longer you leave it the harder this becomes to quit, it is an incredibly hard decision to make and there is a difficult road ahead of you however you’ll thank your self for doing so, good luck!

  • Thought I was over it.

    I started smoking spice about 3 years ago, my was boyfriend on probation and couldn’t smoke real marijuana, So I suggested it to him. when we started living together our addictions collided, and we couldn’t stop. It is all we thought, dreamed, wanted, or cared about. We had tried to quit numerous times because we knew it was taking all of our money, and we couldn’t promise ourselves a future if we continued. But we didn’t stop. My boyfriend drives a trash truck for a living and on Nov 5th 2013 I got a call from his brother at home saying he was in the hospital and had had a seizure. His thrower was with him that day and there was a nurse that lived at the house he had it in front of or he wouldn’t be with us, he was two steps away from getting back in the truck to go to another stop when he had the seizure if he had gotten back in the truck, the 13 ton truck and him would have ended up in a middle school. That incident didn’t even stop us, well not for a couple of weeks. You see when he had the seizure we had been out of it for 3 days so we concluded that it was caused from withdraw. My boyfriend had two grandma seizures that day and his heart stopped, and we still didn’t stop. Any way we did end up quitting because I was pregnant, quitting the k2 so abruptly caused me to loose 38 pounds my first 4 months of pregnancy mostly because I was on and off of it, on it because I couldn’t handle the withdraw, off of it because the guilt.

  • help

    My fiancee of 2 yrs just started smoking a month ago. He started out slow enough that I was unaware to smoking all day and just staring at the walls. He won’t eat or drink anything unless I force him to. I just found out I’m pregnant and it’s not good for me to stress like this. I want him in our lives but can’t handle this addiction much longer. I need help asap. :(

  • Cindi

    We live in Texas can anybody help me find a detox for my husband. I found him at 6am parked in the drive way asleep at the wheel of his truck with the engine still running. Most places say he doesn’t qualify for inpatient treatment. if that doesn’t qualify as a danger to himself or others I don’t know what will, do we have to wait until he actually hurts someone?

  • kman31

    I caught a seizure from smoking fake pot and I stop and I was asking if this happen to anybody and did you caught another one even after stopping for a long period of time

  • kman31

    Has anyone had a seizure during the times you smoke and if u quit like I did, did u have another seizure or was seizure free sense

    • Thought I was over it.

      Me and my boyfriend where pregnant last year and quit three days later he had a seizure at work and he drives a trash truck thank god he was out of the truck but I believe he had the seizure from withdrawl, because we did start smoking it again after that, and he has never had another one, I don’t know exactly how or what causes the seizures because I had a girlfriend that always smoked it and, went to taco bell took a couple batties before leaving her car and she made it to the counter to order her food and collapsed? That’s why this crap Is so f*****g dangerous because you don’t know at all what its doing to your body or when something drastic like a seizure is going to happen

  • europe93

    Start smoking weed when you stop fakeweed. It greatly helps you with the withdrawals. Its my experience.

  • ocdbrownie

    Does this stuff make you feel cold and have all over body aches and ear aches 12 hours after smoking it…? I’m honestly a true blue pot smoker but I am currently having to deal with DHS and can’t enjoy my favorite plant because they swear up and down “dope puts you completely out of it and there is no way you can care for your child”. Pot (I actually hate that word for it, put I can’t spell right now…) actually makes me want to get up and cook, clean house, and have fun with the baby. It calms my nerves, helps my depression and back pain. I took a hit of spice last night and it made me go over to my Bro in laws sink and clean one plate, the sink itself and the drain out. I didn’t know who the f*ck I was, where I was at, or what I was doing. I know that crap is addictive because even after I told him no more, I still ended up smoking three joints of it with him and rolled the roaches up and smoked them this morning… over 12 hours later, I’m feeling like total crap. I can’t get warm even sitting here directly in front of the heater with it on high and the vent to the central between my legs… every muscle in my body hurts, my throat and chest hurt, I have a pounding headache and both my ears hurt like crazy… this crap sucks, and even tho I have said before I never want to smoke the spice again… I realise how addictive it is… I have smoked it here and there throughout the years since it first came out and I’ve noticed how much worse it has gotten. I’m mnot sure what to do about my situation … I have antidepressants but I hate feeling like a zombie… I’m tired of taking pain pills for my back. I’m more for anything organic because of side effects of anything man made. However, they have not made medical ingestion legal in my state… anyway, I think I have completely trailed off my main point here… but any help would be appreciated …

    • Brallyn Poydras

      Tell me more bro

    • Daryl

      Try Kratom seems to help me a lot.

    • keith

      If you suffer from depression STAY FAR AWAY from this crap. My gf suffers from depression and I have always been know to be the opisite. If she smokes it once shes a wreck for a week. And I used this for a year and it turned me just as bad as she is with the depression.

  • John Henry

    Hey Ocdbrownie, I have to give you the honest truth if you don’t stop spice; its going to kill you or reduce your entire life to a smoldering wreck. My wife and I quit smoking this crap over a month ago and it feels like we are new people reborn. You are right the first few years were fun but the new stuff is an ugly powerful addictive beast. You must stop completely! Be aware you will have to commit yourself to the fact you will go thru Hell! You will suffer but you will not die. Winston Churchill stated once, “when you find yourself walking thru hell, keep going!” An amazing light is waiting at the end. My wife and I took two weeks off work and disappeared from the world. The violent convulsions, heart racing, vomiting, cold and hot flashes were never-ending. We both lost more weight from days of not eating, had intense heart beats, no sleep and fear of never being the same again. You cant “wean” yourself off this crap and you have to accept that you will be uncomfortable but that’s a part of detoxing. In reality, you are actually healing and your heart will thank you the rest of your life for quitting. After four days we slowly began to eat but everything in the world was dizzy and foggy. It felt heavy like heavy metal chemicals were in my body when I walked. I couldn’t even open my eyes outside or drive. I was off balanced. I was irritated, angry and crying for no reasons but don’t worry the disease is in its death throes. Just stay indoors and rest. If you work, you have to take time off for at least a week or go to rehab. A few days later it passed and believe me, once you accept the fact you are done and remove it from your system; you will have no more cravings! My wife nor I have no desire to ever smoke that crap again. Its so hard to believe because I use to look everywhere when I was out just to take another hit. We couldn’t even enjoy a movie without thinking about stepping outside to hit a puff in the car. I was such an idiot! I promise if you detox this crap from your system, you will not want to go back down that road. You will become involved in important things. I like the gym again and look/feel great. I have the sanity to take online school now. I never thought my appetite would come back but I eat at least six times a day now with a fierce hunger and enjoy eating again. I can now go to bed and sleep the entire night without waking to smoke, I know the drill. Trust me it can be done but you have to say enough is enough! You will stop wasting so much money and you will get that ugly cloud from around your essence. Trust me people see it even though you try to hide it. People will interact with you more positive because you look and feel better. I just recently stop beating myself up wishing I would have stopped sooner. This addiction put me in a choke hold and it was hard to break free. It hurts your entire family and people you love. But more good news! Don’t dwell on the past when you start this journey. Nobody cares about the past, its all about today and realize there may be no tomorrow if you keep smoking this stuff. I had to apologize to certain love ones for my actions because I was in denial and wasn’t bonding with anyone anymore. Guess what…people will think more positive about you, forgive you and respect you more because you had the strength to face it, confess your weakness, and beat this disease. You will be an inspiration for others. I feel sorry for people still on spice and wanted to share my experience because other stories helped me. My wife and I read other people stories on these sites to get the courage and strength to finally stop this self-destruction. We realized we were not the only ones going thru the spice experience. The seller and his sons at the smoke shop were buying new high end cars while we smokers were lined up every morning to shell out outrageous money for his luxurious lifestyle from hurting others. I would see people filling out personal “I owe you notes” just to get this stuff. Let this failure in life not be your ultimate downfall but one of your greatest achievements. Trust me, a former daily spice smoker…”Quit this stuff today and be a better man or woman tomorrow when you wake up, regardless of how you feel you will survive and you will be that amazing person again!”

  • Lisa Bates

    Hello everyone – I was doing some research and I stumpled across this site and I’m really hoping for some help which I’m desperate to receive at this point – I myslef am not an addict my problem is with my 20yr old son who I believe has this addiction – I’m scared I’m lonely I’m frustrated and very angry because I can’t help or fix this and I don’t know what to do or how to do anything for him – I have seen him so high that he can’t even walk or talk he’s slurs his words and just falls all over the place – to me he looks very intoxicated on alcohol but I know that’s not the case – he is currently living back home with me since he has burnt all his bridges everyplace else and I just can’t stand seeing him this way – I don’t know where to begin – a desperate mom looking for help!!! Thank you

    • MamaI

      Hi first you need to go a good support group like Nar Anon. You need understand addiction and get support. My son has had an issue with K2 also. This is as bad as meth or heroin. It’s toxic chemicals that can kill. We have recently thrown out son out because of the lying and manipulation. You need to take care of yourself. Addiction goes against everything a parent wants to do. You can’t hrlp them until they want the help

    • scarednalone

      My boyfriend is on this poison and i know what its like to find him in the spare bedroom slumped over pipe between hos legs and when i wake him see the emptiness in his eyes. I feel so lost and lonley when he smokes. Everytime is the last time. Im so sick of crying, of the empty apologies, of the lies and doing without so he can “relax” (his excuse for using) that im torn between staying and running away as fast aa i can. This stuff is the devil. I wish i had advice to give. They have to make the choice to get sober amd once they put forth the effort all we can offer is support. My boyfriend needs physical contact, rubbing his head, or scratchimg his back. Just ask him what will help him when he is ready to quit. He may need to stay around you 247. I know thats nearly impossable, but as much time as you can give will help him to not think about it so much. I wish you all the best and will pray for yours and his strength.

  • Chris

    My brother was found dead in his apartment because of Spice use. I had no idea how dangerous this drug is. If your using ..This stuff will kill you like it did my brother.

    • jet

      I am so sorry for your loss!

  • Concerned Mom

    It has been both scary and a relief to read these blogs. My son is addicted to Spice and has decided to quit….. again. I have watched him sick as a dog lying on the floor shaking and vomiting from coming off this crap. He would make it through that but then because of not being able to sleep for days he would smoke it again. I don’t know how long he has been smoking it but I know he has tried to quit three times in the past few years. He has made the decision to quit again and I am hoping he makes it through this time. Reading some of the posts here give me hope!!!!

  • Sarah Olivia Benson

    How can I help my gf who has been clean for 3 months today to get her life back? She thinks she’s fine but I see different. Help!!! I want to help her to be her again. So what Are some things I can do with her at home to help her. She won’t talk, eat, can’t sleep, pushes loved ones away, don’t want to do anything fun that she’s done before and enjoyed. She’s just not herself since quitting. Please help.

    • K

      It will take time. Just keep her busy and occupied with things that can at least somewhat keep her attention until she gets better.
      Once you get past the worst part, only good things to come.

    • gsteph719

      I’ve been clean for only about 3 wks or so and I’m feeling the same sense of detachment exactly as your girlfriend. That’s what this stuff does, it robs you of all the good things you had in life. I’ve read other posts that with time people return back to their normal selves, but right now things are really hard for me just as I’m sure they are for your gf. She’s lucky she has you trying to help. I’m 60 y.o….way too old for this to be happening to me, but just goes to show you nobody is immune to the damage this stuff does. I’ve lost my job, house and even had to give up my precious dog I loved so much. Stay in touch with this site. I just found it today and it has really helped reading other’s experiences. Good luck with your girlfriends recovery.

  • Robin

    I am also a concerned mother. My son started using this crap (that’s what it is) to try and pass a urine test. He became really addicted. He was sleeping in his truck for days on end. He smoked a bit, would pass out and wake up doing it all over again. I just returned from Edmonton yesterday where I am hoping my son will start some counselling and get some coping skills for this addiction. As he is an adult I can only support him emotionally as I do not trust to give him money at this point. He has sold things he loved for this crap and is on the verge of losing his house, job, truck and girlfriend. This crap has to be banned! It is killing him and his future.

    He showed me the two places that sell this to anyone no matter the age.

    The first place doesn’t even sell it in the over 18 head shop side but behind the counter of the convenience story anyone can enter:

    HIGHWAY 420

    The second one is STATION 420
    Station 420
    10413 150 Ave NW, Edmonton, AB T5X 5E5

    Third one is Purple City 420

    I do hope I can shame these places into not selling this crap to anyone. I will be sending this informatoin to the media and the police. It is discusting that people are selling this legally to our children

  • Kristen Soble

    My 30 year old brother was a spice user for at least 3 years. I believe now that he is could be clean, as he is involved in a mental health program where he is being drug tested monthly in order to receive free medication and counseling services.

    Though he was never diagnosed, my brother showed signs of being Bi-polar prior to his spice use, and since his addiction to spice, shows severe signs of psychosis. He is a delusional liar. He has always been one to stretch the truth, but after his addiction it is much much worse. He does not seem violent, but his mood swings and delusions are extreme and I believe he is living in his own world at least 90% of the time. I do not believe that he has spoken with his counselors about his drug addiction. In his mind, he has a high IQ and is a genius, and that is why he is seeking help from counselors– to cope with his genius. He does not admit to drug abuse, though he has been a drug user for a long time. My parents have spent years trying to help him. For so long we believed we were just waiting for him to grow up, but we see now that things are much more worse than we ever imagined.

    His health is still declining, even after moving back in with them and being more monitored. He is severely underweight. His teeth are rotting. His skin is a dull, yellow color. He has kidney problems, has sores on his skin… and I am afraid he is dying. He refuses to go to a doctor for a check up to start to better his health, and because of his age my mother has no way of enforcing it.

    Does anyone else have a loved one who is showing similar signs?? He is now on anti-depressants and we are not sure if they are making him better or worse, and fear that his counselors/psychiatrist does not know that he was on this drug for so long and if he is even being tested for it. We feel lost, and my mother often says she is living in “hell”, as it is very hard on her emotionally.

    If you have any information or can relate, please please respond.

  • nope

    Im so tired of dealing with all these people in my family, only me and my brother are the ones who dont touch the stuff, everyone else is addicted to the shit. Other than my father whos kept in the dark about this shit is completely strung out on this shit. I wish that probation offices would make it normal practice to test people for this stuff…. they literally spend 30 dollars a day to support their habit…. they even go get food stamps and shit to supplement for the money loss. Of course they lie on paper work and everything else. They will argue tooth and nail about this crap for hours and hours…. It has made me completly hate being around all them… they use one another to hustle for this dumb shit…. Im actually hoping one of them ends up in the hospital so maybe some sence will come over them… Im tired of it and i hate it

  • adam

    Had a very scary spice stint a couple times in my life. The withdrawals were hellish and even caused me to see things that weren’t there. I’m not here to talk about myself though. The second time I quit spice. I used marijuana for the withdrawals. Although the marijuana didn’t get me high, I wasn’t vomiting constantly and could keep water down. I had to smoke a really really large amount. I smoked over 3 ounces in a week. Then the second week didn’t smoke at all only due to financial issues though. At around 14 days I felt back to normal. If I were you and your beloved family member is addicted. I would get them weed, and explain to them that there using of synthetics will only make them suffer and get more worse as time goes by. Explain to them that if they smoke real weed for withdrawals they have a good shot at getting there life back and a smile on there face. The marijuana only helped my anxiety during withdrawal and my appetite, I was able to eat but was still highly affected from spice and could only take a few bites, never vomited though because of the weed. And I had to smoke a lot and smoke constantly. Its a better route to go though. Cold turkey withdrawa almost killed me the first time. The time with the weed I almost felt normal. The weed will make them feel almost normal. They will still be sick but it will be tolerable. And as more days pass the more the weed will work. Please I urge you to stop using spice immediately. And if you can’t tough it out get real weed. And use real weed permanently. Even if it means failing a drug test and going to jail like in my case. It was worth it.

    • hashsliningslasher

      You used weed even though you went to jail? I have a major addiction going on 2 years now

  • KC

    How can I help my 20 year old son get help for his addiction to this stuff? Two years ago he started using spice, in that time he has totaled 3 cars, attempted suicide and spent last night in the emergency room after sever hallucinations following a “bad” trip. Each time he promises he will stop, but that time still hasn’t come. I have delt with addiction and been sober for 8 years, but this is is one drug that I can’t get my son away from. His laugh and love of life is gone, he quit hanging out with friends, and sometimes won’t leave the house for days. Treatment centers around Louisiana won’t take him because the drug test comes out clean. Can someone please help me?

    • http://spiceaddictionsupport.org/ SpiceAddictionSupport

      KC, give our help line a call at 866-246-8028 to find a treatment center that accepts Spice addiction patients – many/most do.

  • Chelsey

    Me and my husband need help we are considering weed and pain pills to get off. Somebody please help us!!!!

  • Nico

    Can someone please help me! Ok I last smoked spice in February 2014 . Used weed for withdrawals even though I never felt or got high. I can say I smoke weed on an average every day and still don’t get high. I haven’t been high from weed since leaving the spice alone. 2014 is the first time smoking weed since 2010. I took a 14day break maybe two weeks ago and thought that would help with me getting high from marijuana again. And I was wrong, weed dose t even effect me or get me high at any rate. What do I need to do? Or is there anyone out there with a similar issue that has resolved it and are getting high from smoking marijuana? If you can get high or haven’t gotten high from marijuana after spice use please share . And if you had the problem but fixed it please share and give help how I can enjoy good grade A herb of marijiana. And yes it is Grade A marijuana strands . Loud. Thanks in advance for any help.

    • MuhngTuhng

      marijuana acts on one of the 2 canabinoid receptors in your brain, as spice effects both of them. Spice will burn out both receptors after some time. If you used it only once or twice you should not see much of an effect but smoking marijuana for a few years might be the problem. After using spice the one time might have pushed it over the edge. there are also many chemical imbalances that happen after drug usages. do some research to see what you use and what they do and take certain suppliments or food that will help your issue AND DONT SMOKE. wait a few weeks and try again. train your mind through meditation, exercise, drink water and basically get your inner ecosystem back up to par. there are many more things to discuss but being healthy physically and mentally is key to using drugs. Good luck

    • MuhngTuhng

      Sorry for taking up more post space but if you would like i can teach you a lot about these things. i didnt prove any of my info since it would take a lot longer but if youd like, contact me and i can help keep you away from spice and if you really really need weed i can help you use it with moderation to get best results. let me know if youd like more information.

  • justin

    Man that drugs the devil, I was addicted to the strongest kind there was for over 5 years tryed quiting so many times but the withdraws scared the he’ll out of me, so what I did and it might not work for most people, if you have ever faked being sick at work to get to leave early, and after you leave you actually fell sick, if you convince yourself your sick when your not then u can convince yourself to fell fine when your sick I no it sounds dumb as hell but the mind is a very powerful tool, what I did was convince myself that there was no withdraw symptoms, I been clean 2 weeeks now and had no withdraw symptoms, I did drink a lot of water and take electrolyte, and eat eat eat, that’s the man thing is eat and drink a lot of water and you have to stay active don’t try to go through this sitting on the same couch u always smoked on , remember how strong your mind can be, trust me it will work

  • Jason Matthew Hersman

    Guys I really need help. Look I can overcome every issue I have had except for one side effect. I cannot sleep until I break down and smoke again, or I stay awake for up to 4 straight days cause I can’t sleep. HELP ME!!!!!!!!!! I have lost so much cause of this. I want to break free.

    • justin

      You will go to sleep I promise when I went through it I didn’t sleep for almost 5 days and nuthing will help you sleep, I tried it all, I finally fell asleep on the 5 day and it was amazing to sleep 6 hours straight if you push trough this I promise you will go to sleep, don’t give in to smoking, you can beat this bro,

    • justin m

      Hey Jason, I wanna help you bro I was addicted to this shit for 5 years and thought I would was gonna die , tried to stop a lot of time most of the time I would make it ahole day before I was sick and buying more, think about it this way that shit is going to kill you look at what it makes you do, if your anything like me you’ve prolly lost a lot of friends, lost a lot of money lost 30 pounds, would only sleep like maybe 1 hour then wake up and smoke more to sleep , what I did was took control of my mind the withdraws are all in your head, so I convinced myself there was no withdraw symptoms, and I never got sick or had any of anxiety, the only thing is I couldnt sleep for 5 days and that sucked but I didn’t give in to the temptation to smoke I just told myself I’d eventually go to sleep because and I did at the end of the 5.day and sleep bout 6 and it was awesome now I sleep all the way through the night and I even dream again, you can do this too bro and I’ll be more then willing to help you

      • motopilot322

        Man… I start puking after 5 or so hrs… even if it’s just bile… 4yrs going now… lost a BEAUTIFUL fiance, daughter, job’s.. now I’m broke riding the bus..and just conned myself in to buying more..I’m a strong person. .I admit, I need help.

        • ennaerb

          I know the feeling – always considered myself to be a strong person!, I always promised myself each bag would be the last and that I would stop. Lied to my family over and over again. I had so many issues with being sick, I could hardly ever keep food down. Eventually I ended up in the hospital and it scared me into finally being able to stop on my own with support from my family.
          Part of the issue was confronting what made me start in the first place. Part of it was just realizing I was the only one who could stop myself. You can do it! You have to be open and honest with your family and friends. I think I spent every minute of my free time for 2 or 3 weeks at my mother’s to be sure I was being accountable. Your body starts feeling better, you start feeling better about yourself. It’s really, really hard but it gets a bit easier every day! I haven’t touched it in 8 months and I was smoking all day every day.
          Stay strong and positive. If you ever want to ask questions or need some positive support, we can talk privately as well.

          • monkee

            This is true. It took me getting so dehydrated I had to go to the hospital. They ran I.V. fluids thru me for over 24 hours. I had a CAT scan lung Xray. I thought I was going to die. I went into a seizure and bit my tongue and mouth. Guess what? It took almost dying to realize this might be bad for me. It ruined my life for 5 years. I thank God for a second chance and Im not going to throw this one away. The doctors were so worried and worked so hard to save me I won’t waste their time. Get away from this stuff. I never did drugs but when the devils make it taste like cotton candy or juicy fruit it kind of pulls you in. I won’t be so silly again. Get away from it. Turn the people in who are selling it. Let us fight together. We can save ourselfs and others. Let us join forces.

        • justin m

          Take control of your mind I swear it works I was addicted for 5 years and had no withdraws except no sleep believe me it’s possible, its hard but possible, I’ve been quit for a month and I was back to my normall self after 5 days I have no anxiety, and used no drugs to help and I wanna help everyone see that they are strong enough cause I was the same as everyone at first I tried quiting for 2 years and couldn’t I’m nuthing special, let me help

  • Oscar Oliva

    Help me im on day 10 and my head feels crazy. I thought i was making progress but i dont know if i am. I feel more axious than i did yesterday. Help

    • keith

      Im quitting for the 3rd time and its different now that I found this site. Ive seen how this stuff has effected so many ppls lives that I finaly realized how much it affects mine. This is what hapenes it gets alot worse before it gets better. You are making progress, tough it out and itll all go away. If you can get your hands on some thc its a world of help. Ive been using oil for the withdrawals and it really helps alot.

  • Morgan McKenzie

    My name is Morgan. I do not smoke but would like advice on how to help someone quit. My boyfriend has been smoking for over 4 years. We lost our apt because of it. We have 2 young kids and I feel like I raise them myself. He constantly has to be high, falls asleep in the car for hours on end and sometimes over night in the cold. Spends his whole pay check on it, takes the last of my money. Doesn’t spend time with his kids because he is too high or sleeping from being too high. He quit 2 times and went back to his normal self then relapses. He gets angry, mean, violent. I hate that I’m losing my family to this but he can’t stop on his own. If my 2 beautiful kids aren’t enough of a reason to quit I don’t think anything is. I have lost all hope. And ideas how to help him quit for good? I’m beyond over && tired of doing the 4+ years. Gave this man my life for him to throw it all away over fake weed. Any ideas?

    • Kendra

      Hi Morgan. I am living out your exact story and it is hell

    • jet

      Jesus loves you. I promise!

  • TrippySama

    Hey guys, so im not even sure how to start this. Legal has ruined my life and i need help and support the most right now guys. it started maybe a year and a half ago. my friends introduced me to tripple cs at first and that was amazing and even worse we started smoking mad hatter with it. God was it amazing. It was like downing a 5th of liquor and not being sick for 24hrs. that habit had almost took away my relationship with my gf and killed my best friends who did it more than me. it took them being hospitalized to scare us straight. so we were sober off cs and legal only because the shop stopped selling it thank god. we were sober smoking just real bud for maybe 8 months? Then we found out another shop had a different kind of legal something better than before. Its called dreamcatcher. we started out slow 1 hit would do us for hours on end then wed sleep like hell. it was good for awhile thought we had it in moderation. Well this shit just isnt like what we had before. The high was completely different and better and that was bad. we wanted more and more. we went from a small bag every other day to a big bag everyday which is 40 dollars. ive ended up selling so much of my shit its sad. So me and my 3 friends are quitting now and pretty much only because we dont have money to support it. Or thats what started it. Then we found out about the withdraws the hard way cold turkying. it put 2 of my friends in the hospital bc of dehydration from not being able to eat and vomitting anything they consumed. Well me and other friend wasnt worried bc we werent bad off like them. So we kept smoking it but trying in moderation. Eventualy the other 2 started smoking again just as heavy even affter the er. Just to keep the withdraws away, to eat and sleep. This shit has been controlling every point of our lives. Its been 1 day sence i had a hit but before that a week. i know that was stupid but im finally feeling like im better but not sober. Maybe its because i got to smoke some high grade today. All of us have been so deathly sick inbetween bags we finnaly said enough and been telling ourselves we will quit and been trying but its hard. so we all went in on 7gs and sat down for the first time in over 6months for a real smoke sess. And it was a miracle we all feel better. My friends ate for the 1st time in a week and kept it down. But as i find myself at this critical breaking point im loosing the other half of my world that made me want to stop. As i write this my gf is leaving me. she doesnt know about my habit i dont know how ive hid it. but its obvious to her bc thats why its ending. ive been so lethargic and just not myself that she doesnt love me anymore. she doesnt love me bc that shit made me someone else.The final straw was when she got off work again when I was at my friends house today getting high. but for the 1st time it wasnt legal(she dont know). she says shes tired of me putting weed infront of her. well i have been but not weed its been the other shit. Im sure yall know how that is. im not sure if i should finnaly tell her the truth like it will matter now. Its ironic shes leaving me because she thinks id rather be high from weed than with her, but its the legal thats done it and the marryjane thats finnaly going to help. im absolutely done with this drug now. i feel it with every certainty in my being that i will become the person i was before dream catcher took my personality. I know im not no where close to being over withdraws, and even though a blunt today helped us all to the point i cant describe how different i feel. its like i have a mind again. i know in the morning its going to hit the only person who i loved or cared for is gone. and its gonna make it hard. There will be other hard days to ill want to just go get another bag. But i know i wont. This is my pledge to myself that me and my friends will kick this shit. By the way im 19 and my friends are 19 20 and 21. So ill be checking back here much much more. hopefully with a lil more support from you guys i can make it through this lowpoint and ensure to never ever relapse or try anything other than real weed again

  • You can do it

    To everyone trying to quit you can do it! I had smoked weed for around 4 years my friend had told me about this synthetic Marijuana so I tried it one day it was a big high, at the time I Thort it was great .I ended up getting addicted to synthetic stuff and would wake up through the night just to smoke it to get back to sleep I had smoked it for around 6 months when I started to feel like head/ brain shaking at the back if my head & hearing music when there was nothing on , also started to look at my eyes and noticed the white part to my eyes had started to get lines/wrinkles on them I than started reading up on it and watching YouTube clips of people on the drug and people you had dead from it. I than stopped smoking it that day and went back to normal weed which did do anything after smoking synthetic. Everyone noticed that I was back to normal not going to sleep all the time.
    My friend who I tried to get to quit but couldn’t came over and slept the night coz he couldn’t drive due to being off his face. Woke up to find he had eaten all my food spewed in my sink and bin:( I than had a cone of normal weed before getting ready for work and went in my room than started having a panic attack crying and couldnt move I couldn’t see all I seen was black I partner came home from night shift to me crying not knowing what happened I told him his put his synthetic weed In our with our normal weed. I was hoping my partner would call 000 coz i was thinking i was going to die my heart was going 1000 miles and hour all I could feel was my heart beating I was praying to god to please save me don’t let me die my mother would be so heart broken. I ended up passing out for a few hours and woke up to go to work. Since that day it has changed my life I stopped smoking all together it was a big wake up call I now wear glasses as my eyes are damaged from smoking synthetic weed but I’m just thankful im still alive and here today and now have a beautiful little baby boy:)
    Please get off this drug it could kill you in the end.

  • Laurie Turner Schultz

    I realy need help on how to deal with my 22 yr old and 19 yr boys that are on k2..one of my boys i had to call the ambulance on last week because he keeps having seizures evertime he smokes it and the week before tbat he was in a bad car wreck that by the looks of the car he never should have servived..and the other one just got out from being locked up after fealing a drug test from his probation officer for k2..and here recently we found a crack pipe in his room..im so sick from all the stress they have put me under..everyone keeps telling me to kick them out of the house we gave them but i know if i do that i will just worry more..i have cryed to them begging them to stop telling them my heath isnt doing good because i worry about them so much but they act like they dont care..i just dont know what to do anymore i love my kids so much and its hard for me to give up on them..so any suggestions will help please

    • http://spiceaddictionsupport.org/ SpiceAddictionSupport

      Laurie,

      So sorry to hear about your boys’ struggles.

      This weekend, we updated our article,

      How To Quit Smoking Spice
      http://spiceaddictionsupport.org/treatment-options-for-spice-addiction/

      Even if your boys aren’t ready to quit, you may want to consider attending a local Marijuana Anonymous meeting – often, many attendees have experience w/ Spice addiction. A local M.A. group can help you learn more about your treatment options and provide support through difficult times.

      If your boys are ready to quit, then another reliable option is in-patient treatment / rehab.

      All the best (we’re rooting for you).

      • Laurie Turner Schultz

        Thank you..i dont know that they are wanting help one of them has already been to rehab for it..and i have been looking into a support group around here but our town dont have much..

    • sandy

      Im going through the same thing with my son Its so heartbreaking

    • Terri

      I’m going through the same thing with my son. Paid thousands and thousands of dollars to put him in rehab for 50 days and then rent at a recovery house where someone offered him Spice and he started smoking again. Within 4 days of getting his car back he had an accident while high and got two tickets. He’s got a DUI arrest from November hanging over his head as well. Fell asleep behind the wheel of the car at a stop sign and the car rolled into the middle of the road. This stuff has ruined his life and I’ve had to watch it happen. I’ve done the best I can for him and now he’s in Gods hands. I’ve suffered from depression and anxiety so long over this and I have to stop letting his choice to continue using kill me. Hes only 19 and is slowly killing his body and mind. Its a horrible thing for a mother to watch. I’ve begged him not to let me see him high anymore. I can’t bear to see it. Stay strong and start taking care of yourself!

  • hector

    To everyone that wants to quit spice.. get a hold of some grade “A” Marijuana it I’ll really help with the withdrawal and helps to sleep at night. You won’t feel high but it helps been sober for 11 month and don’t even smoke Marijuana anymore

  • JWright

    2 year smoker, who’s been sober for 2 years.
    Just wanted to make a suggestion to those of you trying to quit:

    Try looking up food and drink with lots of antioxidants in them.

    Cranberry juice, cherries, onions, Green Tea, carrots, plums and dark chocolate all are rich in natural antioxidants. Antioxidants help your body to detoxify – flush out the bad chemicals in your body. This will help you get past the physical dependance. There’s also an incredibly strong mental dependency, but if you can get past the physical dependance, that’s half the battle. Good luck guys, if I can quit, you can quit.

  • James

    I really need help . I smoked way more than I should have with some of my friends last week . It has been 6 days and at points I have felt normal but I have been feeling since I woke up thursday feeling tingles and burns. And it went away for a while but comes back please someone help me. I’m 15 and I did it with 2 friends . And they are ok . I can still function but it’s the feeling and I feel kinda of hazy. I still lift weights etc .. But it comes back and it’s terrible .

    • zach

      so james man idk why you would do that K2 is a research drug its legal because they found loops holes it’s for “research” look i know you’re 15 and this isnt the greatest advice but when it come to cannabis do the real thing and only the real thing don’t fuck with hard drug its not even worth it it’ll ruin your whole life plus if you’re hanging with some friends drink a few beers or something don’t get stupid and if you wanna get high know what your dealing with and do it own your own not with people that not even give two craps about you and i wouldnt take anything from any one unless i knew what it was and what it would do first be careful

    • jet

      Stay away from it!

  • chris

    hi my name is Chris I used to be addicted to this crap and now I suffer from severe panic/anxiety attacks was on it for 4 years now I’m just now starting to be able to eat I lots 100 pounds all muscle on my body is completely gone I used to be serverly built at 240 pounds now up to 170 it gave me severe brain damage completely destroyed my GI tract through my stomach small intestines all the way down to my colon I stay constipated for weeks at a time headaches flashbacks ringing in my ears my vision sometimes blurs out have about four hundred thousand dollars in hospital bills I’m completely weak it hurts to move I’m taking about nine different prescribed medicines im only 29 first drug I have ever done in my life and it destroyed me my suggestion if you love your life and you like your family stop immediately if you cannot stop seek help immediately it is not worth dying if I hadn’t been drinking nutrition shakes I would be dead luckily I found God and you can too love you guys

    • jet

      Amen, Chris! I hope you are better!

  • laureli

    So my boyfriend was bad on spice for s while..he started lyeing to me..and just wouldn’t stop..so there were signs that he needed to stop..he broke two of his bowls within two days..and then me and him we’re in a severe car wreck…he was smoking spice when it happened..he was ok..but I was in ICU..,i can’t stand to be around it or even hear about it..let alone for him to be smoking it.. That wreck scarred me for life..I wasn’t going to make it…so you would think that after that he would stop…well he did after he soon spent a little time time in jail.., he wrote me all the time a swor he wouldn’t touch it again…and so I believed him.. ..
    Its be a while since he was in jail.. And now He just recently started smoking it..and I know every time he has smoked it bc he is a different person ..He looks different he sounds different..not to mention he lies to my face…i will never give upon him, he is my best friend… But I don’t think he understand what he is doing to me and to his self.
    I don’t know how to make him stop… I feel like I need to babysit him..
    If there is any advice at all..
    Because I don’t wanna have to be the one to say Goodbye to my best friend and the best thing that has happened to me.
    And no I don’t mean for this to be a stupid love story but its what’s going on. And I refuse to lose him over stupidity. He is so much better then that.

    • kaitd

      I am going through the exact same thing with my boyfriend. Its heartbreaking. Everything you just said is how I feel. I can’t leave him because of this, he needs help, and I want to make sure he gets it. I know who he is not on this shit and its an amazing person. I want to get back to that. I’ve told him so many times I’m here for him, I want to help him get better, and that I’ll do anything. But he just keeps doing it and lying to my face.

    • jet

      Don’t give up on him! I’m living proof that ppl can’t drive while on that stuff!

  • Micloo Gomez

    i have been on spice for a while now, i have a bad history with this i have passed out, i have threw up on this, i have some questions and if sumbody can please help me. 1. everytime i spit, i spit something green and it looks like buggers is it because of this crap. 2. every time i smoke my stomach hurts real bad, i have other problems with my stomach idk if is because of this crap i smoke or my other problem got worser. i am 18 i love my life i have stopped smoking this shit it just i love to smoke and i go bak to it. can somebody please answer my questions i am eager to know if this is the problem, if it is i will stop for sure.

  • jet

    Hi, Everyone
    My daughter is now a 22 year old that is 5 months pregnant. She no longer uses Spice. Her last form of the stuff that she used was called Mojo. She stopped as soon as she found out that she was pregnant. Here is her story:
    I’ve always known that my daughter loved marijuana (though I didn’t condone her using it). After a failed drug test from real weed in high school, she was introduced to synthetic weed. It was sold in convenience stores in our area. She got her GED and began college. (I knew nothing of her synthetic weed usage). Things were going smoothly until she called from her apartment one day and said that she could NOT quit vomiting. This would be our first visit to the ER. Zophran and Phenergan stopped her symptoms back then. Fast forward: She began RN school and said that she may fail the drug test for marijuana. I bought very expensive detox stuff, shampoo, etc. Needless to say, she got kicked out of RN school due to a failed drug test despite our efforts. She later entered LPN school and passed. She has later confessed that she did so while being high on mojo daily. She’s a lot smarter than me. I could have never done that. She got out of school, got a great job, got one paycheck, then a DUI. She flunked all three sobriety checks and a small amount (a roach) of real marijuana was found in the car. She confessed to me that she was on Mojo at the time and that the roach was old and she didn’t even know that it was in there. Okay. Y’all know the background. Here’s the problem:
    I mentioned the first ER trip. In the last three years, we have been to the ER approximately 30 times. Even after giving up Mojo, she gets bouts of vomiting that will NOT stop. She now has a stigma hanging over her head and the medical staff really aren’t very compassionate with her. The one blessing about this entire situation is that, at one of her hospital visits, she found out she was 2 weeks pregnant and stopped the Mojo. Has anyone out there had residual vomiting after stopping? Will it ever stop?

    • hectoe

      Yes it I’ll stop . But it I’ll take around 2 weeks. Aloe Vera juice from Walmart helps flush your system

      • jet

        It’s going on 6 months now!

        • azsassygirl

          Shes still using the vomiting stops after withdrawal but while usuing u vomit snd cough alot

  • Christy Porter’gill

    Hi my name is Christy, my story changed my life and hope it helps to help someone else… My husband and I smoked fake weed everyday for a couple of years… One day we went to buy our original Bob Marley but they were out… So we bought something that was sprayed times 2… I sat on the couch while he sat in the recliner he took one hit passed me the pipe as I was taking my hit I felt something was wrong… I looked over and saw my husband’s life slip away…. As my feet started going numb all the way up my legs I was beginning to crash…. Somehow knowing he needed help I pulled myself back… I pulled him out of the chair… He wasn’t breathing… His heart stopped… I started CPR while his mother was on with 911… On the way to the hospital they used paddles and had to shoot him with adrenaline into his heart…. After working on him for 20 min they got him back… You would think this was the end but no there’s more…. After being released from the hospital a couple hours later we got home… He walked in the door walked right to the pipe and took another hit… Here we go again… CPR… Ambulance the same as a couple hours earlier… This time he slipped into a coma… Two weeks passed and he started to come around… He made it but not without damage… His memory is limited and his thought process has slowed but he’s alive! This drug was so addictive and should never be trusted… Unfortunately our marriage didn’t make it through the drug but or lives did!! If you have any questions please feel free to ask me… Bless you all

    • Ruby

      Help me recover Please 7863801242

    • mom

      pretty close to the same think happened to my son a week ago tonight. This junk needs to be off every shelf. My son was driving and wrecked , he is a teenager and now in a lot of legal trouble

  • jgarsd

    Hi all,

    I’m a reporter with National Public Radio working on a story about the dangers of using Spice and other synthetic drugs. I’m looking to interview somebody in recovery, or somebody who is trying to get clean. If you are interested in telling your story, please contact me at [email protected].

    Pardon the interruption, just trying to shed some light on an important topic.

    Thanks
    J

    • Veronica Chavez

      Hey in Veronica Chavez , i am trying so hard to stop smoke fake stuff.. & i feel like im going crazy…. here are all my symptoms..
      -Anxiety
      -Trembling
      – fear
      -nausea
      -vomiting
      -hallucinations
      -a sickly look to your skin
      -the feeling of helplessness is so completely overwhelming i dont even know how ive been with out 3 day of no sleeping or eating…
      I cant stay still, cant stop the Dizzyness.
      I really thought this drug would be better but its not its literally the devil in a nice and colorful rapped package. I wish iveNever done this these withdrawals arent funny ive been crying cuz im so thirsty but i can chug the wayer like i want cuz ill jst throw it all back up but worse..

      • Ruby

        I need help to call me

        • Veronica Chavez

          I called i hope you are okay

      • Ruby

        7863801242

        • Veronica Chavez

          8328000928 is my number im finally over the withdrawals but now ivr been diagnosed with depression and anxiety… Feel free to txt or call me

      • jami

        It seems you have a baby? In the photo you have . You need to stop for your child. What would happen if you start having a seizure and you are the only one there for her and you die? Shes left alone . Smoke the real shit it will help you . Dont let your baby lose you.

    • Tasha Grice

      Hi i am interested in sharing my story.i am in recovery

      • flippd

        Its not permanent I promise..it took me months to be able to sleep and eat on my own…even longer to be able think straight..there is light at the end of the tunnel…don’t give up

    • jet

      I emailed you my daughter’s phone number. How real are you?

  • disqus_8HItwnNDyw

    My boyfriend had been smoking for 3 months before he quit.
    He is very clammy, has been throwing up, shaky, week. He hasn’t eaten in 4 days and he recently told me his body feels numb.
    Does anyone have any advise on what would help him?

    • The Overcommer

      If he can smoke marijuana sadly that Is the only thing I have found that reduces the clammy numb zombie feeling for myself. Its terrible to replace a drug with another. But marijuana itself is able to be dropped without assistance

  • jet

    STOP NOW!!!! The withdrawals are horrible, but you can do it!

    • Micloo Gomez

      Do u kno the withdrawals? So i can now wat i kan chek after

      • jet

        I only know what my daughter is going through. SEVERE vomiting! She has to go to the hospital and get hydrated and get anti nausea meds. Her potassium level also gets dangerously low from all of the vomiting!

        • azsassygirl

          jet if your daughter is still vomiting then she still using I’ve been a smoker for 7 years, 30grams a day I have vomited every single day that I smoked after I went through withdrawal and quit the vomiting stopped has anybody on here stated that there still vomiting 6 months after not using you need to get into an MA support group yourself to learn how to deal with it also the vomiting and the cough are the major tells of spice use .. it’s a spice users tell.. I pray she gets the help she needs but she’s not going to quit until she’s actually ready she may tell you that to get help to keep getting high from one addict to another letting you know. I would tell everyone i had quit to get them off my back . But those 2 things always gave me away and the hospital knew the signs also that is why they were not very compassionate to her . If u want to discuss it u can reach me thu this board . I’m on my second time clean I’m on my second month again

          • jet

            She has stopped vomiting and is now 37 weeks pregnant. She is no longer using. She stopped as soon as she discovered that she was pregnant. I only hope and pray that she stays off. Thank you for the advice.

          • azsassygirl

            I’m glad to hear that and I’ll pray for you that is the hardest drug to get off of and the most addictive for supposedly a harmless drug good luck to you

  • jet

    That may be a good idea, but for ppl that have to pass urine/hair tests at work, that’s not a good idea.

    • hector

      Yeah I had to quit my job cuz of it. But my life was more important

      • jet

        Heck yeah! I like living people!

  • DawnBonJovi

    Look up how taking large doses of Immodium can ease withdrawal symptoms. It’s a huge lifesaver!

  • darian

    always keep God with you.

  • Rain316

    my husband was addicted to this for about a 1year he stopped cold turkey and was clean for exactly a year, we are now expecting a baby and one weekend cleaning out the home, the found an old bag of it. he started up again at the beginning on december. he went clean for 1 week but started again, he now wants to stop again and is fighting as much as he can, but needs help with the withdrawl, his withdrawls this go round are much worse then before. need help to help him i dont want to give up on him. He is asking what can he do to help fight the urges!.

    • jet

      Don’t give up! The withdrawals are terrible!

  • james

    I NEED HELP PLEASE KICKING SPICE PUKING SHAKES COLD SWEATS AND CRAVING FOR A JAY SO BAD RIGHT NOW

    • jami

      Smoke real weed in its place! It will help I promise.

    • Ruby

      Hang in there!!!! It gets better by the day I promise. Still having cold sweats but they will be limited. Keep yourself busy and incredibly weed works and It’s non dependant.

      • jet

        Thank you, Ruby for your support to him, but your support of weed isn’t justified, Maybe he has a job where he can’t pass a drug test? I’ve heard that the fake stuff makes you where the real stuff don’t get you high anymore.

    • jet

      It will get better! The withdrawals are horrible!

  • jami

    My boyfriend couldn’t eat or sleep unless he smoked legal. And he did it for the whole “drug test” crap. I helped him quit 3 or 4 times. He would puke his guts up 24/7 I didnt see how he wanted to smoke that crap. Well, about 6 months ago he smoked it again. (I had no idea) he came home being MEAN. He locked himself in his car and wouldn’t talk to me. So I went inside to go to sleep.. something told me to go check on him.. when I did he was on the ground seizing. I couldn’t see his face from all the puke covering him. He was choking on it. So 6 month pregnant, me, had to roll him over on hos side and dig the puke out of his mouth. He hasnt touched it since. But I have nightmares all the time . Sometimes when I close my eyes I see him laying there helpless.. dying. You guys don’t understand. This shit doesnt just effect you. It effects your children. Your parents. Your loved ones. You need to get help. Tell a doctor. Replace it with real weed. Who cares if you lose your job, as long as you dont lose your life .

    • jet

      I KNOW WHERE YOU’RE COMING FROM!!!!! I have a daughter that almost died from it!

  • Ruby

    Day # 3 still sober. #HappierThenEver #YouCanDoIt

    • jet

      I’m so happy for you!

  • Jake

    Not sure where to start. I have been using Spice for about 4 plus years now. It is indeed what you all say it is – a terrible fucking drug. I am here to give you guys some info on the drug, the real deal on it.

    It can cripple you mentally and physically, make you feel depressed, and just make you feel like an overall piece of shit. It is nothing like Marijuana, it’s more of a crack type high, it only lasts around 20-40 minutes tops, and with every ban or year the chemicals get worse and the highs get more intense and strange. One of the main highs or feelings of the spice product the past year or so has been a nod feeling, and the thing is you don’t see it coming, you may take 2-4 hits and feel buzzed and irie, but if you take 8 hits you might just “nod out” as we call it, that is pretty much just blacking out and waking up 20 minutes later saying WTF Happened? This is common for anyone with experience with Spice. It’s not a fun feeling.

    Doesn’t matter if you buy this online, at a store, make it yourself or whatever, it is bad news. Don’t trust someone just because they say it has legal chemicals or is deemed safe by them.

    Most of the highs that this stuff produces are very toxic and poisonous, it does provide instant euphoria but the high is a panicky high and just not an overall good feeling. And the high is so short lived, you are fiending to re-up every 30 mins to an hour. Also, if you smoke this stuff every day, by about a week of full use your tolerance will be so high you will not be getting high anymore at all and need a break. Let’s not get started on the munchies, it’s insane.

    Another problem is that if you want to go back to real weed, it just doesn’t seem to work very well, like you are smoking a cig. And that feels pretty painful when you drop 120 on a Q. I have taken several month breaks in the past and the marijuana buzz has not returned. I will not be going back to it once I quit the Spice. Just not worth it and replacing one drug with another is fucking stupid.

    This is just a warning to anyone who wants to use Spice – Be careful – It is not what people think it is. It is not Synthetic Pot. It’s Research Chemicals.

    I have quit lately and have not slept in weeks, it’s starting to really worry me. I just lay in bed all night tossing and turning. Will be headed to a doctor soon if I don’t get some good sleep. I feel like its been weeks. The funny thing is I’m not tired and jacked up all day and I haven’t slept in a week or two.

    That is scaring me.

    Goodnight and good luck to anyone using this stuff.

    • jet

      Please. hang in there!

    • David Reyes

      Damm you just told my story i have about two weeks clean. Aftet smoking for 5 years. I cant sleep and im being a Asshole to my babies momma. And she isnt a bitch either. We are not together but she is or was my friend. Im scared too. I dont feel tired. I think im having bad psychotic withdraws. No more throwing up. Man GOD please help me.

  • shanta

    My husband uses spice. He turns 28 next month and has gotten to the point that he just neglects his family. we have a 2yr old together and I have a 8yr old. The other day he lied about why his nose was bleeding. which wasn’t the first time I saw this happening. He went to bed last night at 12am and woke up at 5am before he went to work and was downstairs in the neighbors storage closet smoking. He will pass out in his car in the parking lot, multiple times I’ve went to get him from out the freezing cold at 3am. He has had at least 4 repossessions and I’ve had the same car for 3 years. He has taken the money out the kids piggy bank, stole money off my bank card several times and I now have to hide my purse. He looks like a zombie all spaced out and shit. He is Puerto Rican and his face looks like he’s had a tan because his skin looks so pale. I wish I knew he smoked it prior to me meeting him. I already told him I wanted a divorce and he always is quick to say I want another man. no I want my husband but not a damn drug addict. he brags about how much he can get and its ridiculous. We never do anything anymore as a family its like we come second to his addiction. He drives and smokes all the time, and I refuse to let him drive my car or pick up my children.
    some of his symptoms:
    anxiety
    scratching like a crack head when he doesn’t have it
    aggressive
    bloody nose
    vomiting
    diarrhea daily
    munchies
    complains of stomach problems when he doesn’t have it
    shaking
    sweats
    passes out for hours
    depression
    bad enough he has PTSD. I cant see myself being brought down anymore by this nonsense. I have 2 kids that need me and I Know I deserve better. Im currently trying to get out the lease without him knowing because he has gotten aggressive before but im fed up with this and I love him enough to leave. Its bad enough for me to know about his addiction but my parents have seen it also and im beyond embarrassed.

    • jet

      I KNOW how you feel!!! Please, read my post about my daughter!

    • Godislove

      I’m so sorry you have to go through this and I will pray for healing of your husband. I know the awful feeling of second because of this crap.

    • jeffkennedy

      Give me your husbands number and i will make this man realize.

  • travis

    I can’t smoke real were I’m on probation… I feel like literally death I haven’t eaten I. 3 days & consistently wants to puke .help please

    • jet

      I KNOW how bad this addiction is!!!! Please, STOP NOW!!!

  • Jacqueline Ashley

    Am Jacqueline Ashley from UK, i want to say a very big thanks to the GOD of Dr SK, for using his anointing water to heal me from DEADLY HIV DISEASE, i was diagnosed positive three years ago, and since them my life has never been as it was before, i cried a lot pray to GOD, seek for help from different people across the world, ask family and friends for help too, but they all failed me and because of this sickness i was about to loose my job, the only place where i do find some money to pay for my bills and take care of my self, kids and family, i cried all day through praying to GOD to forgive my sins, but still yet, there was no way out, i seek help from different helpers who i met online, still yet i still remain in the same condition, i seek help from different herbalist no one was able to help me until i met a friend on Facebook, he directed me to Dr SK, which i called him on phone and speak with him and also write to his emails, he sent me two healing anointing water and also send me a piece of note telling me how to use it after fasting and his videos and audio CD. it was really amazing after watching them all, and after using the anointing water, i went for check-up and my result came out negative, till now i have been in a good health and i always go for check-up every weekend and still yet negative. thanks to Dr SK for healing me, you also can be free today from different types of disease and all types of problems if only you believe on him and have faith on GOD by using his anointing water and i promise you that you heart will be fills with joys and smiles… here is my private email [email protected] email Dr SK via email address on [email protected] and be free today to all viewers accross the world and to all listeners smiles from MRS Jacqueline Ashley

  • Ruby

    Yessss it worked for me. Clean 1 month!!!!

    • Heather aka weda

      Wow ruby proud of u

  • James R

    I been smoking potpourri by kush for 7 mouths straight . I smoke the worst of them I ODed at least 7 times and decided to quit . well now that I haven’t smoked I have intense pain on my stomach . it is so bad I won’t eat do to the pain . I’ve tried many pills for long periods to stop but to no progress .its day 4 of soberness I don’t know how much longer I can’t take. don’t smoke this trust me its not worth it I’m only 16 and it destroyed me . I can’t remember stuff I lost touch in who I am .and school is the hardest I went from As and Bs to all Fs . don’t ruin you life plz

  • Jayy

    Hi, me and a few friends decided to start doing spice around… The beginning of December and we thought it was going to be nothing. It was something my boyfriend and I have been trying to come off of it and it isn’t going so well he has been puking and I have been getting chills. My other friends have these symptoms as well but they keep going back to doing it so they won’t be sick anymore please help me help us..

  • kay

    yesterday was day 5. I slept 6 hours straight last night thank you God. And then I got a few broken hours this morning. And another plus I had a halfway normal bowel movement this morning! Things are looking up

  • noway

    Hey guys Im 25, I smoke this for a week by accident when I realized it was Spice not Marijuana I just stopped in the moment and flushed everything I had left in the toilet I recomend you do that.

    I cant easily describe how bad I feel for the last 130 hours.. the first 3 days was the hardest.. Felt the heart pump really strong I had to shower my head cold everytime to feel better, I just ate like 4 few garlic cloves during the day (raw is better) and maybe a banana and lemon juice.. sometimes water but very slowly because if you drink too fast the circulation goes even faster… Also 2-4 garlic a day helped me calm the heart and the blood flow and many more benefits so I recommend eat that the most. As this things gets together with the fat in your blood i recomend eat only food without fat like EGGWHITE and FRUITS like banana, watermelon and pear. If you cant eat nothing and feel very hungry you can drink honey with water SLOWLY. Keep your self busy but never stay sit for too long specially if you eat something because it might give you a embolism. Always take walks If you can but I dont recommend bike or run because this might force the heart too much. But walk is good… Im walking a lot everyday. Also sleep with the head

    Right now.. the 5 day I feel much better but yesterday I took an aspirin and my throat got an allergy and I had to take solu-cortef in the vein wich is a antiflam I thought I was good already and tried to eat a small fish steak and went to rest in bed but felt pain in the chest and blacked out for 1 sec so I recommend not eat this for a month or so… I dont know yet how long this will stay in my body but while it is im eating only fruits and the eggwhite for proteins and fruits for carbs (you can try google “nutrients egg” for example to check what you have in your house WITHOUT FAT).. dont eat egg yolk it has too much saturated fat and get VITAMIN PILLS if you can since it has no fat its very good specially if it has vitamin B1, B6 and B12 for the brain. Im tryin to get this out of my blood for once and for all so Im going to a clinical doctor right now.. Also Im trying eating a olive a day wich has green fat so maybe it get together with the spice molecules and get it out of the body faster and its less dangerous for the heart.. but more than one makes me feel bad also dont forget to eat half garlic clove a day at least. Thats all I got guys I think It can help many of you having those horrible symptons just keep strong alright! If anyone know something to get this thing out of my body faster I would like to know! And remember dont stand still for too long.

    This drug is very, very, very dangerous especially if you think its regular weed because it is weaker and make you smoke more and then boom it overdoses! Also I felt NO relaxing effects like with marijuana wich is the reason I wanted to smoke it so Im never doing it anymore and marijuana Im giving a real big break until my body is 100% functional maybe in a year or so I can smoke it back but the risk of smoking spice again by accident really makes me not want to do that nevermore! Also it destroyes your brain way more even if not overdosed.

    • noway

      oh when you are getting better you can try eating white rice too guys its the best beause too eat only fruits and eggs get the kidneys overwhelmed potassium and the rice has much less

  • kay

    today has been one week since I have used. No more sweating those hot coals out of my pores!

  • LDec

    How do I get my fiance to quit? He is so head strong and refuses every time to get help, even though we are in a custody battle with his ex, we just had a miscarriage at 13 weeks and now he is upset to the max and using it for coping. I dont know what to do, he will disappear for days at a time and we have to find him. He refuses to get checked out even though he has chest pains all the time. A part of me wants to get out but I can’t, I love him so much and I already lost my baby boy I cant stand the thought of losing my fiance, but no matter what he refuses everything, we have tried to get him help but he will not budge.

    • noway

      maybe if you explain him very well how bad it is for the body and specially for the brain you can convince him… he could end up in a weelchair! thats why I will never touch that. Theres others ways to relax and life is so much better without it. Keep trying because when we are under the effect of that the mind gets very confused

      • LDec

        Yeah I know, I’ve already tried that but he thinks he is invincible or that it won’t happen to him. One time he was so far gone and I was sleeping and him came in screaming crying for help, when I woke up and turned on the lights he was like no im fine it was nothing. I just cant imagine why you would want to put your family through something like this, he will quit for a few weeks to a month but then fall back again, and ive tried to give him the benifit of the doubt and try to help him relax naturally but he won’t admit hes addicted.

        • julie

          LDec I just went thru this. my husband has only been smoking for maybe a month and he acted out really bad one morning which scared me. He woke me up at 2:30 am and called his mother to who lives 5 hour away. His mother ended up driving to us and when she arrived we got him to get in the vehicle. Right away we went to the Hospital (we ended up having to go to 2 the 2nd one ended up taking him the 1st turned us away saying they don’t deal with people who need that kind of treatment and the other hospital does) we drove right up to the ER. we had to call out to get help to get him out because when he saw where we were at he clinched himself to the vehicle. It took six men to get him out and carry him in. They put him in a special room and tied him down. It took 4 hours for him to calm down until they finally released the straps. well the hospital works with the mental facility so due to his condition when he arrived he was flagged and admitted into a facility. now he is there and its the best thing I could of done for him.

  • Matt b

    How long will it take for me to sleep more than 3 hours a night, this was my second relapse, I’m 84 hours into my detox, not feeling nearly as sick anymore and I actually feel tired but I can’t sleep, if I would take a Xanax to sleep would I then become dependant on that? I have to work Monday night at 11 and I’m afraid I won’t be able to sleep by then, PLRSSE HELP!

  • Shaundra

    I’m in so much pain I just want it to be over I can’t sleep I can’t eat I’m do tired of throwing up everything. I just want to sleep and eat what should I do I don’t want to smoke just so I’ll feel better.

    • Matt b

      The first 3 or 4 days are the worst, you will not be able to keep anything down, and you will be misserable, chin up, I’m on day 6 and I feel alot better, still have problems with sweating and sleeping, but I can eat now. I feel 1,000,000 x better

      • chris

        How long did it take for everything to just get out your body, I feel as if my 4 senses then got very weak……

  • Rosalie

    How are you doing Shaundra? I hope you overcame spice. The first week is rough. I was in and out of the ER every time I tried to quit spice because I couldn’t eat nor drink and was dehydrated. I had horrible abdominal pain and extreme nausea. It was the worst. I was institutionalized for trying to take my own life. I was in the hospital for a week and had no access to spice. My mom went through my things while in the hospital, found all of my spice packets I had hidden and threw them out. I was mad then but couldn’t be more greatful now. I thought I would never quit. I thought it was going to be the death of me. I didn’t have the umphm, drive or motivation to quit. When I was out of the hospital, I didn’t order spice. I kept my addiction from friends because I was ashamed of my drug of choice. I was honest with my best friend when I came out of the hospital and she helped me a lot by just being there. i smoked spice since 2008 and I am a mere few weeks from being a year clean! I am so proud of myself. I want to help others get off this crap. There is a movie about spice called not for human consumption.

  • dawn Watson

    someone help me I’m dying my first day off spice and I don’t know what to do …my number is 832 6893594. I’m going crazy..help me

    • http://spiceaddictionsupport.org/ SpiceAddictionSupport

      How are you doing, Dawn?

  • Tony Flores

    Hello, everybody my name is Tony Flores and I have a kush addiction. I have been smoking kush daily for almost a year. Im only sixteen and just got my girlfriend pregnant 3 months ago. Now that I have a kid coming around, I would love to get off my kush addiction before my child is born into this world. I’ve had a spice scare about 5 months ago and quit for a while but soon got back to smoking daily. Is there anyway I could get any help from anyone? I really do need it and want it. I live at home with my eighteen year old brother, fifteen year old sister, my mom and my dad. My brother and sister also have a kush addiction and have k2 here daily. I can’t stop smoking because it being around me makes it harder to stop! Can I get any advice from anybody? Your help is truly appreciated.

    • julie

      tony flores please you have to go to a hospital or a facility. admit yourself or ask someone for help. tell them you want help so they can drive you to make sure you get help. Do your parents know?? if not maybe they should. This drug is BAD. I had to deal with this with my spouse who was on it for a month. He is in a facility now and I got him there just in time before it got worse. What if he hurt someone or hurt himself? It made him have delusions, aggression, vomiting, sweating, no sleep, diarrhea, and stomach pains. I can only imagine what you are going through. I have read all comments and been doing research. Once you stop you will have withdrawals but everyone says it gets better with time. They say stay hydrated, stay actively busy (to avoid thinking of it), and try to be around positive people who don’t use the drug. tony please for the sake of your future, your spouse’s future and your child. Be strong.

  • Tony Flores

    If anyone can help at all and happen to have the app Kik could you Kik me? Mrtpocketz is my Kik name. Or if anyone would like some support as well feel free to Kik me.

  • jeff

    I couldn’t sleep when the night came so I went to the store spent 15$ on some sleep aid. Bought 48 tabs of unisom and a 6fl. of that ZZz time Nyquil. Took 1 unisom and a sip of Nyquil which is 50mg of diphenhydramine and I layed in my bed with my tablet watching spice addiction videos on youtube for an hour and finally fell asleep for 6 hours. From 6am to 12pm. I woke up soakin wet I just took a shower. I watched that mic s guy on youtube on his day 10 being clean. Going to take his advice and start drinking pedialite and some Gatorade and start eating soups and oatmeals.

  • Erin

    My dad started smoking spice because his work does random screenings. I guess he’s going on 3 years and… it’s bad. His weight fluctuates a lot. He coughs like my grandpa when he had lung cancer. He’s unsteady on his feet. He looks swollen and sick. He hardly sleeps. HE CAN’T REASON AT ALL ANYMORE. HE HAS ANGRY AND VIOLENT OUTBURTS. HE IS PARANOID. He even gets sick- he goes through WITHDRAWALS. HE’S GONE CRAZY AND REFUSES TO HEAR THAT SPICE IS DANGEROUS.
    I don’t know whay to do. I am a middle-aged adult but I feel helpless about this. He’s always been angry but this is scary.
    I thougt about turning him in (we don’t have a relationship where we can talk. He’s never seen me as a person but an object,) but it would be bad also bc his girlfriend is a diagnosed delusional, and paranoid schizophrenic with marijuana addiction. The just bought a house and both be in trouble!
    WHAT DO I DO WITH THEM???? HELP, PLEASE.

  • xk2queen

    I relasped today. I slept all day. Now im hostile and meamean. Wtf. I am not smoking again. After ten years and then 17 days sober. Its noticeably bad.

  • xk2queen

    Threw my 3 year old sisters toy across the room for singing. . .

  • Guest

    Iv been smoking spice for about almost a year straight and iv been sober for almost 3 whole days now, iv been puking and vomitting alot and my appetite has been at its worst everytime i eat i feel disgusted and wanting to vomit, and iv been at the worst since but I do see me getting better , but little by little, and can anyone recommend me something to eat? what are some good foods to eat ?

    • greenwaffle

      Try getting some protein drinks (like Boost, or Ensure). It keeps the bad thoughts like, “Am I hungry? Am I gonna puke? Food sounds horrible. I really don’t wanna puke up chunks this time.” away. Take vitamins too. :) Hope this helps.

  • jeff

    Ty for your support. Going on day 7 now. . I’ve saved about 140$ – 200$ already by quitting spice with in the last 7 days. Only thing im having trouble with still is random cold sweats and can’t sleep at all without sleeping aids still. I’m so happy I’m pass the stage of wanting to smoke that spice again. Quitting spice will be the best thing that will ever happen. You WILL get your health back. It really does change you a person too as well, and quitting, you’ll get yourself back…. since quitting I have been slowly regaining myself back, and that has to be the best part of this whole entire quitting spice. I can’t wait to see how I will feel next week!

  • worried mom

    My son is upstairs very sick. Sweats, vomiting and body pain. This is his first day of not smoking. I have been reading some of these posts and am terrified of what we are about to go through. His friend who’s been smoking with him is in the hospital with seizures and his mother at his bedside. I pray that all will be well.

    • mikesbeenthere

      Yall can do it. Having u there with him maybe the deciding factor that gets him through

  • stefanie

    I have a brother, 33 years old. He’s had many many addictions with any drug you can think of. Spice has been the worst. I hate this stupid drug. It affects my mother most of all. She has this huge codependency. The way he’s addicted to spice she’s addicted to him. Weve tried everything. Over 50 different rehabs in the past two years. I honestly feel like there’s no support. My mom gets worse and worse everyday. And I hate my brother for it. He steals and doesn’t give a crap about anyone or anything. I don’t know what to do. My main concern is my mother. And I tell her to start caring about herself. And she tries but no matter what she cannot let him go. I honestly have no hope for him. And this might sound horrible but at this point I don’t care about him. We’ve done EVERYTHING. Church, rehab, we treat him right, we tell him well help him, we kick him out. It doesn’t matter. He doesn’t want help. I don’t know what else to do. He smokes spice at least 23 times a day. My moms health is deteriorating. TELL ME WHAT TO DO. Tell me something we haven’t tried!!!! I’m 22 years old and I still need my mother. We don’t have enough money to take him to one of those “fancy” rehabs. WHAT DO I DO???!!!!!!! WHAT CAN WE FREAKING DO???? I HATE HIM and I love him at the same time. But he will not change unless he wants to. Damn it. Were talking about a human beings life!

    • Mom53

      You are right, your mom is addicted to him. She needs to understand that she can’t want it bad enough for. HE has to be the one to want it and he does not yet. She’s not ready to accept she has NO control. I’ve finally come to that see that. As a mom, it rips your heart out but I can’t help him if I’m dragged down too.

  • Tony Flores

    Hello everyone I posted a comment about me being an addict to spice and am now here to officially say my detox is complete. I am now clean and don’t feel the need to have spice at all anymore, can’t even stand to look at it. I am only in day three!!! I am now trying to help YOU! I have started a support group on the app Kik messenger and I am here to help you. If I can do it, you can too! Don’t think you can’t cause you CAN! If you are looking for support feel free to contact me on the app Kik messenger. My username is mrtpocketz and I am here to help anyone and everyone no matter what your circumstances are. So contact me…… I will HELP YOU! I will go out of my way to make sure you are no longer a slave to this drug. Contact me please. I want to help.

  • Hulk Hogan’s Camera Man

    you will be fine. stop smoking right now. this stuff is poison.

  • Hulk Hogan’s Camera Man

    I’m looking to quit. I don’t experience any withdrawals when off of it but just miss being high as if it’s too fun to stop doing. I have a little 9 month old daughter and a devoted wife I’ve put through way too much and lied to. I’m just reaching out in hopes of finding others who have quit and stopped doing this crap and could meet each week in a chat room or just email consistently and help me. anyone out there? email me at [email protected]

    • Timmay

      It will get better bro I’m on day 4 and feel great again !

  • Dakota

    This is a long-ish story about my journey, and how this drug is still ruining my life.

    Details: Age – 20. Experience? Done everything except heroin and meth.

    I have successfully quit – not because I wanted to, but because literally I have hit rock bottom. I was once a straight A college student with a full time job. I was making roughly $1.5k – $2k a month from work and monthly payments from college. In January of 2014 I was informed of a 12 panel drug test that the school was preforming on us, and at the time I was an occasional weed smoker and still wanted to “get high”.

    My college friend, we’ll call him Bran. Bran had smoked, what we call “legal” or “pots” and “hoppy” here, before. He told me where to get it and how much it would cost. I couldn’t believe it was so cheap for just a couple of grams! I had so much money, and this was a non-issue for me. We got a $10 vial containing “El Diablo”. After the first hit, I was high and freaking out telling everyone there is no way one hit should have me this high. The high then lasted roughly around 45 minutes to an hour, and it was the best high I’ve ever experienced.

    A couple months went down the road, and I was fine. I would only ever buy a 10-gram bag once a week and I would be good all week, that’s until I started to “fiend” (craving it so bad you look like a crack head). The high only lasted about 15 minutes at this point, and I was buying a bag every day, sometimes multiply times a day. I would miss college just to get high, or sometimes take my bag to school and smoke it on our smoke breaks. I took it to work to hit on my smoke breaks too. It was getting bad, eventually my bank account was suffering bad. I usually always had an extra $500 by the end of the month, but now I was over-drafting my bank account so much it was hard to keep up.

    I had finally been dismissed from college due to too many absences (Private College, strict attendance policy. 3 Days in 2 months were allowed, I was hitting 12 full days every month). I didn’t think much of it, as long as I could get high. This left me with more time to get high right? So I took more hours at work, to make up for the loss of the school money every month. I still had extra time to get high, so everything was “ok” in my book.

    No one understood why I would spend hours scraping pipes that were clearly clean. I developed all types of methods to extend the legal high. Rubbing the liquid resin on tobacco, saving all the resin after each bowl pack, boiling everything, etc. etc. No one really smoked it as much as me, so they never experienced the craving for it like I did. I then lost my job, and let me tell you – the true crack head came out at this point. Due to my responsibilities at college, I had gathered a large sum of friends, and a good credit score. This to me, was the best way to continue to get high, I didn’t care about the consequences.

    I would occasionally ask to borrow money from every single one of my friends, $20 here $40 here, hell even $300 one time. With the promise of paying them back with some extensive lie I had come up with. When they came to me for the money, it was so simple to drop them and move on. I regret everything I have done in the past year. I found out my bank account at Wells Fargo let me overdraft up to $1,000 and I did. I also maxxed out my credit card, just to get high. It was so bad. I scrapped my car for an extra $320 dollars to put down on another car, but look what I spent it on. More legal.

    I have personally went temporarily blind from this stuff, have had amnesia, and a couple seizures, but I always continued to smoke it. Even after the third time going blind and could have swore I “saw the light”. My friend hit a bowl pack when he was driving and totalled his car, and did a hit-and-run because he was panicking too much about the drugs in his car. He to this day still gets high off legal. I got a lot of people hooked on this drug, knowing how bad it was, just so other people would buy it so I could get a couple hits. Including my sister.

    When you are crawling around in the floor identifying legal flakes, and black resin just to get high. Look at yourself you are a crack head, or a “fiend”. If you are continually cleaning your pipes, or even break a couple spare pipes just to get to the resin, or if you are pinching everyone’s bag when their passed out, you need to stop. There was always some new way to get high for me, if it was from using pipe cleaners and then smoking the cotton or using a piece of wood and smoking the wood. All of which are terrible for you.

    “Tripping too hard” or “I got too fucked up” is a common expression used in my small, very small group of friends who still actively engage in it. During these trips is a common element of seeing people who aren’t there, these people have never engaged with me, they were just filling up the room. Until recently, where one of the hallucinations touched my leg and told me how good of a job I was doing figuring out that a blanket had a race car on it. My leg was numb in the three spots he touched me.

    I’m a week sober, the withdrawal symptoms I help everyone out with are usually gone by day 3 or 4. I always help baby sit people who are tripping to hard, because hell – I got them on this drug just so I can continue my habit and don’t want to see them get hurt.

    But, guess where I’m going as soon as I get my tax refund? That’s right – the head shop.

    If you guys need help with the withdrawals, I’ve helped a couple of my friends with them. You can e-mail me at [email protected]

    • easy e

      Please don’t pick back up… you don’t want to be 36 and where I am. I’ve ruined my looks, health and lost most everything one can lose. It isn’t worth it. You’ll never have a decent life or be happy using that garbage. I’ve been where you are. Get help.

    • Brock

      Do u feel like u lost all the gears in ur head

    • lost and about to leave!!!!

      My fiance has been addicted to spice for a little over a year now. His mother is ten times worse. And I’m telling you everything that you have explained is him to a T. I hate it. Ive tried to get him help. he doesn’t want it. He has had seizures. Gone blind. Passed out multiple times. Stopped breathing and him and his mom thinK this is cool or funny. I just don’t get it. He tells Me rehab is for hard drugs. But he is convulsing throwing up daily sweating lazy doesn’t care anymore. All he cares about is getting high. And every time he needs more. He smokes about 2-3 5gram bags a day. It really has gotten far out of control. He is not the same person I fell in love with. He is not the same father to our children. They ask me all the time what’s wrong with daddy? He tells them he smokes too much tobacco. What do I do?!!!!

    • Bbshopper

      How did u go blind? I see rainbows.

  • easy e

    Worst drug and withdrawl EVER! Trust me, I’ve done them all! Stopped recently and I feel better every day!
    Good luck!

  • easy e

    I had the same issue when I quit. Horrible diarrhea and vomiting, along with sleeplessness and cold sweats. Please stay strong! It gets better.

  • Josh

    Why is wanting to quit this so hard? I feel like Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde so much of me wants to stop but everything else in me craves it and it’s hurting my family so much. I just want to be able to be a normal adult I’m about to be 21 and have been smoking this for 4+ years,I can’t eat or sleep or even think straight without smoking but the anxiety is worst of all. Just looking for advice and support from others who have dealt with this

    • Michael

      Quitting is hard, I’ve been clean for about 2weeks, I’ve been clean longer but I relaspes. This time I’m feeling confident. Don’t be scared too look into rehab there is no shame in wanting too better yourself, fuck what people think do it for you. Life does get better. Just think of all the nice things you can have if you don’t buy that shit

  • Debbie Gibson

    I just wanted to say big thanks for this site…This is awesome! I discovered it last night & have passed the info on to my friend whose son has a Spice addiction. We are going to educate ourselves using this wonderful resource so she can get her son the help he needs so badly. Thanks, again!!

  • kat

    Omg….this is exactly what im going through. Im on day 3 very little sleep an no appetite the battle is a hard one all the strength to everyone trying to kick it.

  • anonymous

    no appetite
    agitated
    cold sweats
    wont be able to sleep tonight
    stomach aches and vomiting

    day 2 :(

  • justin brown

    hey guys quick ??? to any one ok so im 2 days offf n i feeel liiik shiit but my dad was telling me that real marijuana helps the withdrawl from spice

  • j

    How long does the with draws last it’s been 3 daysnow

    • http://spiceaddictionsupport.org/ SpiceAddictionSupport

      Withdrawal symptoms typically last 7-10 days.

  • Ruby

    Been clean off spice for nearly 3 months now !

  • Greg

    tomorrow is one month for me, do you still have the anxiety attacks and constant emotional stress?

  • Patrick91

    I smoked legal or herb as we would call it for five years. Five hard years. I had to have it to function. I couldn’t eat, sleep, work, or do anything without it. My entire life revolved around the herbs. I’d easily smoke 200 to 300 grams every two weeks. I have a good job, a wife, a beautiful daughter and I almost lost it all just because I wanted to get high. Well at that point it was more I thought I NEEDED to get high there was no wanting I’d find a way to get it. I would pay my bills and then spend over a thousand dollars a month on legal. I started just like everyone else it would keep me high for a long time and I didn’t need much at first but I started needing it more and more and I’d get extremely mad when I didn’t have it. I quit three jobs just from someone saying the wrong thing when I didn’t have any and I’d blow up and quit. I some how landed my dream job and it was an hour away from the nearest place to buy it so after two years of smoking I thought I would be able to quit so I bought me a little to “help me quit” well it lasted a couple weeks and then my first big check came in and it was on. Well three years later and after smoking all day every day at work or not. I had a seizure at work one day. I woke up in the hospital and freaked out because I wanted to get high. I left the hospital and blamed it on a vapor pen. They put me on short term disability for two months and nothing changed… my lies worked again or so I thought. My brain wasn’t the same. I couldn’t smoke it any more it’d give me seizures if I hit it to hard but I didnt care I needed it I told myself I’m just gonna take small hits and not hold it in and ill be cool. Well three months later I had another seizure driving home from work and I totaled my tahoe. That was it. That was all I could take I had to quit or I’d lose everything. Someone would find out. The double life could only last so long. It was a crazy couple months. First it was search. Straight crack head style. If there was any in the house i found it and desroyed it. I broke my pipes I destroyed everything that had to do with legal then the anger came and that’d last a couple days then it was the depression it was the hardest thing I’ve ever done. I was sick, I couldn’t sleep, I had cold chills, and so much more. It was crazy but day by day it got easier and the next thing I knew I slept for like a week and I ate everything in the house. Food hadn’t tasted so good in over five years. My senses wow they were extremely heightened for about a week. Everything smelled so good and looked so beautiful. Life was good. I’ve been clean for almost a year now. April 12th will be a year. I’ve gotten alot of the people I got addicted to it off of it and I’m willing to help anyone else that needs it. This drug is no joke. I’m reminded everyday of the pain of this drug due to a neuroligical condition I will take meds for the rest of my life for. You can stop. Its all about deciding you want to.

    • mike

      Hi Patrick…Ive got to quit this spice shit…tomorrow I want to get 1 $10 bottle..make it the last…what do I do?…you can text me at 702 412 5561..I can use any advice..tomorrow I plan on it being the last….?

      • azsassygirl

        Mike you have to go cold turkey you have to make that decision you have to destroy everything that you’ve used to smoke it you cannot wean off of it it doesn’t allow it this is my second time on it and I swear this time I would never go back again I’ve joined na and I’m slowly putting my life back together again. But not a day goes by that i dont want it working on 30 days now and i still get the shakes

  • Please listen

    I would advise anyone curious about spice to avoid it like the plague. Spice is more addictive than any substance I have ever encountered, and I have experimented with the so called hard drugs such as heroin and cocaine. The strange thing about spice is the actual drug experience of spice is unpleasant, yet you feel compelled to repeat the experience over and over. I remember the first time I smoked spice in Florida. It was a brand called Mr nice guy. But there was nothing nice about it. I remember taking barely one puff and having one of the worst anxiety attacks of my life. It was as if the anxiety was so strong that it was pushing me down to the ground. I felt…. The worst feeling… Like I had murdered someone and was on the run…. A terrible anxious guilty feeling. I felt so uncomfortable my first time smoking it that I had to go for a walk to regain my sense of reality. I did…. And eventually the anxiety wore off, providing me with a sense of survival, almost a high, similar to the feeling a skydiver might experience after a death defying jump. The spice experience is similar to marijuana only in relation to the visual distortions. Both drugs will provide a slightly hazy visual perspective on your environment. Whereas marijuana provides the feel good emotions of dopamine immediately, spice, in my opinion, only provides these emotions slightly after completely freaking you out. I slowly became addicted to the “near death experience” spice provided. Every time I smoked spice I felt terrified. Then I survived the experience. And I felt… alive? To this day I’m still unsure why the spice experience was at all enjoyable for me. My only guess is that spice, despite being unpleasant, was specially formulated to addict people. I eventually realized that buying premade spice was financially expensive. So I started ordering the chemicals used to make spice online, namely AM_2201. I would smoke a bowl of it sprinkled on plant matter of any sort. Dried rose petals were my favorite. This is when I started experiencing the extreme delusional effects associated with spice. The “high” of spice seemed very temporary, but the delusions were long lasting. I became convinced that I was the star of some reality show about my life, and I felt like I was being watched all the time. I have experimented with other psychedelic drugs in my life , and none have made me feel this way. Unlike other “bad trips”, where the paranoia and delusions usually wear off when the effects of the drug do, spice delusions persist long after the ” high” has worn off. In other words, you feel sober but you are completely out of your mind. I genuinely believed my delusions. There was no voice of reason in my head. I eventually became concerned about the long term effects of using an unstudied research chemical, so I decided it was time to stop using spice. I grabbed what was left of my AM_2201, my pipe, and walked to the nearest trash can. That was that…. So I thought. This is when I began to discover how physically addictive spice is. I couldn’t sleep. I would drift off for fifteen minute intervals, then wake up in a cold sweat and my bed sheets were soaking wet. I literally couldn’t eat. The food just wouldn’t stay down. I would vomit almost immediately after eating the smallest morsel, then dry heave over the toilet for minutes after. I had the worst fever of my life coupled with anxiety attacks. The withdrawal symptoms lasted over three days and I feared that if they continued, I would lose my job. I couldn’t keep calling in sick. So one morning I got into my car and headed to the local gas station to buy more spice. At this time in Florida spice was everywhere…. Displayed in full view in colorful packaging that would definitely appeal to children, featuring Disney characters. I asked the gas station employee which brand was the strongest, and he recommended a brand called WTF. I paid a ridiculously large price for the small package and raced home to smoke it. It felt terrible as usual, but I was able to eat again, the fever passed, and I could sleep. I continued using WTF over the following six months, in which time I started to really notice the physical toll the drug was taking on my body. Despite being able to eat I was rapidly losing weight. My normal weight is about 150. By the end of my six month WTF addiction my weight had dropped to 107 pounds. I looked skeletal and somehow the fat tissue cushioning the bottoms of my feet had depleted making it painful to walk. I was weak and frail. I started needing to smoke more and more WTF just to keep withdrawal symptoms at bay. I would wake up several times during the night to smoke WTF because I would start withdrawing during my sleep, and then rush to the gas station first thing in the morning to get more. The delusions and paranoia worsened. The last month of my spice use I was terrified to leave the house except for work and to buy more spice. My brain started to deteriorate. I would forget how to perform basic simple tasks, especially at work. I experienced a strange phenomenon I called “hand blindness” where I would be, perhaps, searching for my car keys in my pocket, but unable to identify them by touch alone. It wasnt like I had no feeling in my hands… I just had no idea what I was touching without seeing it. One day I looked into the mirror and didn’t recognize my reflection. I looked like a zombie, complete with blackened teeth from the constant smoking. I realized that if I continued using spice I would die. I also realized the only way I could quit the addiction was to remove myself from access to the substance. The next day I quit my job, packed up my life into my car, and drove as fast out of Florida as I could. Luckily I had acrued a bit of savings. I was headed to the west coast, to live with an herbalist friend of mine who wanted to help me withdraw. The drive there was harrowing. The withdrawals symptoms began almost the second I drove off. I was running a high fever and vomiting at every rest stop. When I arrived and my friend first saw me she gasped. “You’re still alive!” She exclaimed. “That stuff is designed to kill people.” She was somewhat familiar with spice addiction and brewed me a super strong tea of Valerian root and kava kava that I was to drink constantly during the physical withdrawal. If it helped I didn’t notice it. The actual physical withdrawal took a half a month… A half month of fever, panic attacks, inability to eat solid foods, dry heaving, dizziness, inability to sleep, delirium. I wanted to smoke spice so bad to make it go away. I even crawled to the most questionable gas station one night looking for it, but thank God, it was illegal where I was. The mental addiction, along with the paranoia, delusions, and panic attacks, lasted long after the physical withdrawal. I still craved spice and was incredibly socially phobic. After a full year of not using spice, I finally began to see things clearly. I realized a lot of the spice induced delusions that persisted in my mind even after stopping the drug were unreal. I began to trust people again and make friends. Now, three years after my spice addiction, I am doing better than ever. I have regained my weight and health, and have had my teeth repaired and whitened. I manage a business that I love. I consider myself lucky to have survived spice addiction, and I am so grateful to the people who helped me save my own life. I genuinely believe that spice is perhaps one of the most dangerous drugs in existence, designed to addict and kill people. Its not even worth trying once. One use can cause lasting psychosis. Thank you for listening to my story.

    • Garcia90

      I felt like I was telling your story in my shoes!

      • jay

        So do i rits really a 20th century heroine

  • Anonymous

    Ive been clean for about 2 months now,i thought i was going to die going through withdraws,knowing that one hit would stop it all but once its over with its worth it,i was smoking it for about a year straight before i smartened up,my dad,his girl and my grandma have been smoking it for 5 or 6 years and have all got off of it and all our lives are alot better without it,im still mentally fucked up tho,Skitzophrenia,depression,anxiety,bipolar disorder,and whatever else i have,all because i wanted to get high,im just lucky i quit when i did before i died.

    • Bbshopper

      I have the same problem. U want it when I wake up in the middle of the night. I’ve become an expert at scraping resin out if purposely broken pipes. I’ve picked up loose spice off the ground to smoke after my fiancé poured it out outside.

  • gray9187

    Well we’re do I start I used to smoke weed and I came across a shop In Birmingham selling Thease legal highs called sweet leeef obliteration so I tryed a purchased a pack thinking it was Safier then weed I was wrong,! What I look back now is when I purchased the item the man selling said don’t smoke this in a bong cause you will get addict but its fine in a joint when he knows that first puff you are addict. I didn’t even know I had a problem I currently changed from days to nights so when it came to 9pm my shift hadn’t started and I was withdrawing like mad I manged some how to do my withdrawls at work I only had too. The next night I couldn’t go to work as I was sick black acid it’s horrible. ITs embrassing at work knowing they know I use drugs. I had to come clean to my family which helped so much my I am now 4 days clean but the cravings are bad how long will this last and how can I deal with it at work it’s hard. Sorry forgot to add only used the stuff to help me sleep every 2 hours. When will I feel normal

  • gray9187

    It Is hard I been clean 5 days now. I don’t want to smoke which is good. Just hard going to shops extc feel like every one is watching every1 knows they don’t tell your self this IT will get easier feel lost in my self and fragile and emotional when will I started feeling me?

  • jj22222

    how do i get it out of my system its my first time they didnt tell me wat it wss and i felt terrible this is the 3rd day and i feel like out of it, someone help please

  • David

    They are selling this stuff with ketamine in it now. Its called the bee. 6 days clean. We need to spread. Awareness. Lets do something about it. Its killing us all. Email me please. we need to put an end to this police are taking too long. Its time to take matters into our own hands. Please we need to resolve this now. Contact me we are determined. Dave. [email protected]
    3055080158..
    We need a group together to protest in front of these shops selling or something but lets take action. Ive called police, dea, dcf nothing is being done and potheads are being turned into crackheads without even knowing it. So sad that a human can do this to another. Call please lets put an end to this now.

    • Anthony

      Dude, finally someone who has enough courage and bravey, set up and plan proper demonstration or civil protest of some sort too banned all synthetics products in the U.S. That’s exactly what we all should do in order too get rid of synthetic drugs once and for all; not only too be healthy mentally or physically but for our future sake.

    • Bobbi Bobbi

      I agree that something has to be done. I had a son addicted to that crap and kids in our area are dying left and right. We need to put a stop to the sales of this crap!

      • david

        Now they have flaca being sold as candy.. imagine a kid getting a hold of this and accidentaly eating it like candy. Out of control

  • gray9187
  • Goza

    I went to jail I’ve come out addicted to spice i smoke from am to pm that spice shit is a proper drug

  • Ryan

    I’ve been sober 50 days today. The crap they sell at bodegas head shop in El Paso nearly killed my girlfriend and I. And the cops are All dirty around there. They are pushing for that crap to get sold! Wtf. Try working the 12 steps. I’ve seen it work for others and it is working for me. If anybody wants someone to talk to, I am here. U can reach me at 9493382193. Much love to everybody and stay sober!
    -ryan

  • Taylor

    Synthetic cannabinoids are evil. Not too long ago, just last year, they drove my friend into complete psychosis and insanity, and he committed suicide. His name was James Gunnell. They sell this crap here in town, it goes by “Mindbender” or “CB1”. Sometimes it’s so strong it throws you into psychotic episodes, making you vomit and experience grandiose delusions, suicidal hallucinations, and other serious mental issues. We tried to help my friend but it was too late. He disappeared one day after we took him in for a psych evaluation (which was completely useless), and his remains turned up a couple months later in a wash.
    Nobody needs to smoke this stuff. Nobody. All we know is that these chemicals are cannabinoids, full agonists at that. But what ELSE are they? What else are they doing that is causing severe addiction, vomiting, suicidal thoughts, psychosis, etc.? We need to work together to get this stuff banned altogether. To propose a ban on SYNTHETIC CANNABINOID DRUGS in general, not just certain chemical names. If you’re going to smoke, smoke natural marijuana. Not dirty, halogenated chinese chemicals.

    • Liah

      Hi thanks for the heads up. My daughter she’s 17 and never knew where or what friends are poisoning her mind with whatever she’s taking. Dr and cops were saying its either synthetic acid. But don’t know it yet. She kept saying somebody putting a cursed on her the youngest child a blue eye little girl is making her saying all this. This drug is evil. I’m so scared for her. She cut up herself last year suicidal. Never saw her like this before. Super strong and kept repeating same thing over. Any help out there? I love my daughter youngest of six girls. Thanks

  • Fernanda

    I am 20yrs old and my husband is 22 we have a 4 month old son who is the Best thing that has happened to me. I am currently working on my bachelor’s degree while I work a part time job and take care of our son. My husband is the major source of income. He used to smoke marijuana and I didn’t have a problem with that. Due to some regrettable actions he ended up with a year of supervised probation and was no longer able to smoke. At first he picked up the habit of drinking but I didn’t mind it since it was only once a week and he wouldnt get super drunk. But about a month or so ago he had the bright idea of smoking spice. I was never okay with that but he didn’t listen to me. He had been smoking that stuff for a few weeks now and two mornings ago I saw him go through the worst high ever. He was in the balcony and I had just finished giving my son a bath I asked him if he was okay and he said no. He came in the house and began freaking out yelling asking for help and yelling out that he loved me. He threw himself on the floor and looked like a toddler throwing a tantrum. He kept yelling unrecognizable words. I had never been so scared in my life. I put my baby In his crib and locked the door. I didn’t know what he was going to do next. I started crying telling him he was going to be okay. When it was finally over he seemed like he never went through that. He was his old self again. I told him I didn’t want him smoking that anymore and I said I would leave him if I ever found out he did it again. Well last night he did it again and this time I was sleeping while he was taking care of our son. I woke up to him screaming while holding our son. He kinda tried to calm Down but I could tell just by the look on his face that he wasn’t himself. The trip was not as bad as the previous one but I can’t trust him at all anymore he said he would quit and I believe him. I can’t even trust him to take care of our son. I love this guy and he was perfect before all this happened. we had accepted each other with our flaws and virtues but he seems like a different man now. I feel like I’m slowly losing him to spice and I want to help him but I can’t risk the life of my son. I am in so much pain right now and I feel my life is falling apart. Spice is destroying my life and my family. Please someone help me. He seems like he wants to quit but I feel like he is already addicted and he hasnt even been smoking for that long. I don’t know what to do. I want my son to grow up with a mother and a father. I feel like I don’t deserve this. Please help me.

    • http://spiceaddictionsupport.org/ SpiceAddictionSupport

      Fernanda, really sorry to hear what you’re going through. Your story is unfortunately familiar to lots of people who visit this site.

      If your husband wants to quit but doesn’t know how, then read these articles about treatment options: http://spiceaddictionsupport.org/synthetic-marijuana-addiction-resources/

      If you have private insurance and are open to professional treatment, then a spice addiction treatment program might be the right way to go. Call our hotline at 1-866-246-8028 to learn about programs that accept spice patients.

      If your husband doesn’t admit that he has a problem and/or doesn’t want to quit using, then you will need to get him to that point before trying the above. Try recording his behavior on your phone, then playing it back to him later on, when he’s sober.

  • Guest

    Shops stop selling the street game will get worse. I’m saying we go outta state and bring it back sell it on the corner. YOU CAN STOP THE SPIKE FLOW

  • Matt Hook

    Shops stop selling the street game will get worse. We go outta state and bring back. YOU CAN’T STOP THE SPIKE FLOW

  • Bubba’s Hidden Camera

    I find if I don’t have it I’m okay but if I do I smoke like 5 grams in a day and waste an entire day. right now I haven’t had any in like 2 1/2 weeks and don’t feel a need for it but I know once I get a little extra money i’ll want to try to see if I could maybe just smoke a pinchie a day or something. it won;t work. cold turkey or nothing

  • jessica

    My husband has been doing this so called spice drug. I didn’t know what this was or the effects or anything. Iv been searching online but everything I read is not the way he acts. He’s up all day and night doesnt eat. Always isolating himself. He’s even loSt a good about of weight. I asked if he’s on anything besides this spice drug and he’s says no. Are these symptoms the cause of this drug?? He’s been spending so much money on tod and it’s ruining or marriage. He’s just not himself anymore is as if I don’t know him.

    • tamara

      Sounds like Meth

      • Thatguy57

        Shits probably worse than meth. I was using spice and only spice for 3 years. I manufactured my own so my habit quickly spiraled out of control. I was using upwards of 1 oz per day. I needed it to eat and ate a lot but often food went right through me or came right up. At the start I weighed 220 and I’m now down to 155. I Also couldn’t sleep without it. I would wake up every hour craving it and could not get back to sleep. I know they won’t perscribe it for spice addiction but if you can get ahold of subboxone strips they do help (even just 1/8 a strip) as the withdraws are much like opiates. I promise he’s not on meth or bath salts just give him time

        • azsassygirl

          spice it acts like meth because it’s sprayed with Meth

    • Rakkah 03

      No it’s defintely fake weed! I’m going through the same thing

    • Erin

      Meth or bath salts or even molly, they would all produce those effects.

  • Bbshopper

    I have noticed a horrible short term memory loss as well. I’m still smoking a 3G package a day.

    • dave

      You shouls stop smoking it and you will be fine after a while

      • Heather aka weda

        Easier said than done

    • Heather aka weda

      Me too I forget what I’m saying in the middle of a sentence sometimes and I took honors in high school and have some college education

  • Ryan

    Give it time. It takes a while for everything to come back. U will be okay.

  • azsassygirl

    Gatorade and cup of soup

  • dave

    Dont get in your own way, yea its gonna take time but if you allow the mind that heals your cuts without you even thinking about it, heal your head, it will. All you need to do is believe.

  • niranye

    The drug spice is quite possibly worse than hard street drugs that are illegal. This is my account of witnessing my friends & loved ones destroy their bodies & minds while I was babysitting them. This spice addiction story is NSFW & graphic.

    My first interaction with this nuisance came while living with my fiancée and his older brother in the time between high school & college. My fiancée & I smoked marijuana regularly (we both have PTSD and anxiety issues), but his brother, who we will refer to as J from this point forward, was a career criminal…in & out of jail since he was 19 on a slew of drug possession charges. Needless to say, J was on parole & could not partake in toking, although he sold all of our weed to us and all our friends. You may be thinking to yourself, how does J do it? A career criminal drug addict who sells but is somehow immune to craving it??? Impossible!

    Enter synthetic marijuana chemical JWH. My fiancée and I were just hanging out in the den area of our apartment one afternoon and J bursts in the door with a little plastic bong, and a stench like death. I gagged and made this grossed out face the first time I caught a wiff of it and every single time after that.
    “You have to try this shit, guys. It’s like nothing I’ve ever done before…the high is like, like a rollercoaster. Don’t take too big of a –”
    My fiancée had cleared the entire freshly packed bowl in one single hit, and J looked like a deer in the headlights for a second.
    “Better strap yourself in tight. You’re in for a ride.”
    J reloaded and handed the bong to me next. I was totally worried and hesitant. Then my fiancee started giggling in a euphoric kind of way but also an intense way…like he was mildly tripping, so my mind felt a little more at ease.
    I took a very small hit and remember being thoroughly grossed out by the smell and the taste of this stuff…thinking the high better be pretty redeeming if people are OK with inhaling this atrocious smelling leaf. I held the hit in for five seconds and was listening to the other two trip out and say “whoa” a lot between laughing fits.

    As I blew the smoke out my legs started to go numb and my mind was like “something’s really not right!!” Alarms and sirens began wailing inside my mind as my heart reached a fever pitch. I was thrown headlong into a full blown anxiety attack! I immediately shot up from my seat and began pacing back & forth while crying…not able to explain what the fuck just happened to me. I thought, ‘never again, that’s not the stuff for me.’

    But the other two loved the shit. J especially. I would come home from work and find homemade bongs that reeked, alongside bags of chips that looked like they had been eaten by a starving raccoon…complete with crumbs all over the couch and carpet and bag completely shredded. The food consumption was probably the most ridiculous munchie madness I have ever witnessed, I started buying extra food when going to the store because he would eat our shit too! Like a few times I bought three boxes of toaster strudels and he ate two boxes in one night!!!!! I would have to thoroughly inspect the floor in every room before walking in it because several times I stepped on a butter knife coated in peanut butter and honey…it was fucked. And there was no talking to him: he was always asleep! He would come home from work and smoke a hit, pass out for forty five minutes to 2 hours, wake up and IMMEDIATELY do it again. All night.

    I eventually started getting worried about six months into his addiction. My fiancée was not a habitual user like J, but I was also worried he was losing his memory because he couldn’t remember anything. J was getting weird though: he would sit in his room alone and smoke, every once in a while he would come out but only to act like a goon. We would all be chilling and he would come in, eyes completely zombied…and slurring his words heavily. Our friends were asking “why is J so drunk all the time?” It was embarrassing but also worrisome. What was going on in his mind? I wondered. I was well aware of the stories of kids killing themselves or just losing it completely, and J was a big scary looking guy who would be difficult to subdue if it came to that.

    Fast forward to several months later: J was getting real sloppy with his business dealings, and running with some super shady characters. There was a lot of traffic several times a day and throughout the night. This was also around the time he had decided that spice was no good anymore because I was showing him stories from people like the ones on this website and he was getting scared. He tried to give it up cold turkey…he kept his piece though since is was an expensive glass bong at this point. He also kept a gargantuan stash of empty baggies the entire length of his spice experience that he would later scrape the crumbs out of like a fiend to help him sleep. Three days into his cold turkey attempt he was describing agitation, irritability, extreme insomnia, delusional thoughts, excessive sweating and inability to keep food down.
    Even before he was on spice he was never a weak person and was usually too proud to ask for help unless he couldn’t do without it, so we knew that he was not doing too well.

    One day while on break from work, J brought a friend home with him to smoke some 7H (a popular brand of synthetic at the time) in what would be his first relapse. While J was experiencing massive relief from his first hit, his friend Jeff was hysterical, begging me to call his wife & say his last goodbyes for him because he believed he was dying. I calmly said, ” Jeff you are not dying, everything is perfectly okay…please relax.” But to no avail.
    “I’m gonna be sick, where’s the— BLAaaGH!”
    He vomited right on the white wall of our den. I rushed as fast as I could and grabbed the nearest object for him to continue to spew in. I thought, “thank goodness we are only a block from the hospital,” but I was still worried. About fifteen minutes later we got him to calm down, and he promptly fell asleep. But when it came time for them to leave about ten minutes after that, J tried to wake Jeff quietly and gently so he didn’t scare him but Jeff’s eyes shot wide open and his veins were popping out of his neck. He was scared out of his mind about something. “no!!! Please no!” He screamed this several times before J got spooked and picked him up by his shoulders and I helped carry him out to J’s car. After J got home from work I asked what happened and he said “he just slept in the car the rest of our shift. Then he wouldn’t even talk to me.”

    I met this nice guy at work named Andy and invited him over to meet my fiancée and hang out. j eventually got this guy more addicted to spice than even he was! Andy and his little brother Anthony were eventually coming over to our apartment just to smoke spice and nod out for hours and hours. It was repulsive. It felt like our house was turning into a k2 crashpad for junkies and I hated every second of living there after this point in this story.

    A couple of months after this crashpad shit started, it was Halloween night. My fiancée and I had been handing out candy in costume on our porch and having a good time. Later on in the night we got pretty wasted with our friends while J lay in his room high out of his mind on k2, basically dead to the world. Our friends all left except J’s gf, and she went into J’s room after a while. A guy that I really disliked came to try to buy some weed from J, but he was out and J told him that. They had some extra words too, the guy was upset about the lack of supply. He left.

    About thirty minutes later I was standing near one of the doors to outside, the one that the disgruntled person had left through, scraping old food into a garbage can. The door opened behind me, which kind of pissed me off that I had forgotten to lock it and that someone had the audacity to walk in without knocking. I whipped around ready to scold my friend, but instead was greeted by the barrel of a handgun against the back of my neck.
    “Do you feel this?” The masked gunman asked.
    “Come over here,” he grabbed my arm and walked me over to the living room and instructed me to lie on the floor with my hands on the back of my head. I saw four people in masks with guns before all i could see was carpet.

    My fiancée had just come out of the bedroom and was shocked at the scene. They did the same with him except punched him in the back of his head a few times.
    “Please don’t hurt my wife, whatever you do.” He begged.
    They were there not to take our valuables or money, but to take J’s weed. They were in the know, they knew J sold large quantities, they knew he was a spice addict, and they knew he was a physical threat because they wanted us to be really quiet so as not to wake him up.

    They were drilling us all with questions, they even sent one of the people into J’s bedroom and got his gf out on the floor as well.

    “I’m only gonna ask ya’all one more time, where the fuck does he keep his stash?”
    “This is a robbery right now, don’t turn it into a murder.”
    “I’m gonna kill your bitch if you don’t tell me where your brother is keeping his weed. I know he got at least a half pound, now say it!”
    I was shaking uncontrollably with fear. I thought this is how I would die. Then they found a bayonet in my fiancée’s bookshelf while looking for the shit. They started the stove.
    “Let’s burn this bitch.” one of them said.
    I screamed out because I thought they meant me and begged them not to burn me. But they walked past me into J’s bedroom, laughing.

    I didn’t see any of this but J tells me he woke up with them surrounding him all holding him down except one, who sat at the end of the bed with the screaming hot bayonet. They asked him a few questions and J was being no help to their goal, so they burned him in the back of his neck. J begged them to let him go, saying he would do anything and that he was really out of product. I could hear this part and was wincing, bracing myself for the gunshot that would end his life. I was about to make a run for it but I didn’t know if I would survive. Then the tone of the conversation changed, j was screaming loudly “kill me! Fucking do it! Pull that fucking trigger I dare you haha I fucking want to die!!!!!!!” And they all let him go, being stunned at what he was saying and how loudly it was being said. He was able to get to his golf clubs and chased them out of our apartment.

    After this J got clean from spice for good. He made it a point to never touch the stuff again, even though it was a trying process that resulted in him failing drug tests due to illegal drugs and going back to prison , but at least he still has his life. Please let this serve as a lesson to anyone who believes that they are completely untouchable by any and all bad drug experiences. The consequences of your actions could result in your death or death of those you love, and even if no deaths occur you are still hurting everyone that cares about you in any number of ways. I was almost robbed of my life because someone saw this person in a weakened state due to k2 and decided to attempt to take him out. Please stop now, for you and everyone you love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • http://www.twitter.com/juanfooley23 KDani

      “Then they found a bayonet in my fiancée’s bookshelf while looking for the shit. They started the stove.
      “Let’s burn this bitch.” one of them said.
      I screamed out because I thought they meant me and begged them not to burn me.”

      didnt read the whole thing but that part had me in tears.

  • Emma Lambert

    It’s been almost 2 years since I’ve smoked spice and my experiences were always different. I was with someone who was truly addicted to it, even got us evicted from our apartment after living there for only a few months. He would spend hundreds of our rent and bill money on it every day since it burned quicker and the high only lasted for 15th min or until you passed out (though you would never know when you passed out). I remember the major bad trips I had. I was sitting in my living room watching Superbowl 48 (missed the whole game cuz I smoked spice and was passed out the whole time) and I remember seeing numbers quickly dropping down to zero. I thought I was going to die so I screamed to wake myself up. Thankfully it wasn’t my time yet.

    A couple months later, my ex and I were over at his dads house and my ex thought it’d be awesome if his dad took a hit of spice (he was a weed smoker which I highly recommend for ppl who are currently spice smokers cuz its a real plant people grow and not process and it’s been proven to help handle major diseases like epilepsy). His dad didn’t feel anything but apparently I was having seizure like symptoms I was unaware of until I opened my eyes and saw my ex and his dad staring at me in worry and his dad ask me if I was OK.

    Some time after that, we were trying to find a place to sleep (my ex spent all our money on the stuff during the week as always and we were smoking in a parking lot next to his mother’s house). At the corner of my eye, I saw a scythe and a dark hooded figure and thought, “that’s the grim reaper. You’re gonna die.” I looked at my reflection in the side mirror of the car and noticed my eyes had no pupils, my lips were pale and drooping like I was frowning but I knew I wasn’t. Then I noticed I was shaking my head at myself like I was ashamed and had to pay the price. I was so scared after that time that I stopped completely. My ex went to numerous rehabs to get clean but he never did while we were together and that’s why we’re not together anymore. He chose that over me and believe me everyone, you don’t want to get addicted to spice. So for people who have addictive personalities like my ex, I don’t encourage you to ever go near that stuff. My ex and I have lived in a lot of different states and he always found a way to buy it regardless of the price. Spice can mess you up and the 15 minute high is not worth your life. I’m telling my story to prevent others from further injuring their beautiful minds, wonderful lives and the ones they love because spice will make you choose it over your loved ones. Thank you for reading and I hope I’ve helped someone with their addiction.

    • Danny O’Rioghbhardan

      Thank you for sharing Emma, we have a Family memeber struggling and your story helps educate us with whats really going on with this terrible situation.

    • Ijeather

      Yes thank you have been smoking for a little over 4 years with these last 4 yrs being the craziest and hardest of my life…that shit turned me into a fucking hypochondriac …I quit twice for months at a time but found myself sucked back in I hate it I wish they would kill these fucking Asians making this shit

      • This Guy

        It’s hard for me to accept those last few words, but I can’t say I haven’t thought something similar as I stare at my reflection in the mirror after puking my guts out.

  • Sam

    I want to stop smoking k2. I been smoking it for years. First drug I ever tried was k2. And it was amazing, I felt like I was floating and finally happy (I’ve always been a depressed person) I had the giggles over nothing the first time I finally felt it (I tried it when they kept saying try it but it was a waste because I never felt it until one of them decided what I should be feeling) I was living with 2 other people and no internet, phone, tv. Me and roommate A would smoke k2. This stuff made time go faster, gave us a stress free zone. We smoked about 3gs a day between us. Sometimes more if friends were over. The stuff was cheap and very easy to get. Just walk down the street to the gas station. 15 a bag. Kept doing this for months until the city ban gas stations from selling it. But the local head shop still would be. Finally summer came and I got my usual sickness I get once, maybe twice a summer. I get put in the hospital and that’s when roommate A gets arrested. That’s when I stopped smoking k2 for about a year or two, to impossible to find. Did not know where to get pot either. So roommate B gets me hooked a bit on molly. That lasted about a month or 2. We never take a full one, spilt it between the 2. Helped us not feel hungry because there was nothing to eat. Roommate B would have sex for those Molly’s. I never knew how many she took but while me and roommate A did k2 (before she was arrested), she was popping molly. Roommate B started getting paranoid and freaking out on those. Took one really good freak out for her to change her ways. Started getting religious. Because I was still pretty new to this drug world I did not know where to get anything. So I became drugged free. Yeah I missed it. Missed only needing one small hit of k2 to get stoned. Was I craving it, not really. just somethings made me remember it. 2 or so years later I met this guy, call him B. No relationship, just friends and still are. B use to smoke spice the same way I used to, until it was impossible to find some. B did know where to get pot though. So I bought pot thru him for a good long time. Smoked about $50 in pot every month. B had a friend (call him R) who just rolled into town. Found out R knows a street k2 dealer. I bought k2 from R’s friend until B trips the hell out. Like on the floor twitching and moaning. He did do some meth earlier thay day and robo pills the previous. We also smoked some pot with it. Turns out the spice guy was a really bad mixer and there were a lot of hot spots clumped together. So to many chemicals in one spot, also he liked to overdo it sometimes. Its what you get though buying street. So that’s when we found out the smoke shop in another town not to far sold it 15 a g. At this point pot was still my drug of choice because k2 was still near impossible to attain. It was more of a weekend sort of thing. R was really addicted to k2 and had to have it no matter what. He did not do pot because of peeing hot. R robbed me, took movies and games that you could only get about a dollar for at the pawn shop. That was the end of R. So again no more k2. He was the guy with the car. But it was enough to fuel me to go searching for an online shop. B hears about k2 selling over line. We didn’t trust the websites enough yet to attempt it. Eventually instead of 50 on pot I spent 30 on the online store and got a 3g bag of Diablo. The only k2 I knew at the time. We were shocked it worked and it was a real site. That was the end of pot. I bought 10g for 50-60 a bag. At first the 10g would last me a while. Then I guess my tolerance got bigger so that 50 a month turn into 200 plus. But that’s also when B meets a dude name C. C sells k2 at the best prices. 10 a g. But we werw getting 5 a g. No one else had those prices so C’s been my guy when I did not have loads of money to throw down huge amounts of cash. But those 5s, 10s, 20s add up. I started smoking a g with friends and that won’t last. Slowly became just me smoking a g by myself a day. When I did not have the money to spend I’ll just go with without. But those days were miserable. At first I had to come down from binge smoking for days non stop. I’ll sleep a lot usually. Then I became restless and could hardly eat or sleep. Then it would get back to normal ish. Then I would get money and start the whole process over. This has been going on for about 2 years now. I’ve only tripped out once. I blanked out and fell down for like 5 minutes nothing was registering. But that’s when me and B got ahold of a batch that was bad. Every time B hit that k2 he’ll get real sick. Puked on himself and flopped to the ground. It reminded me of a child throwing a temper tantrum. Just replace the crying with moaning and manic laugher. So that’s my story. I’ve seen a lot of people become weird after hitting my pipe. because me and B had a tolerance and always got the good stuff novice people would freak out over. Everybody had different freak outs, no two the same. But the signs of a trip were there and easily readable on their faces or body language. The reason I want to quit is because the highs not the same anymore. I grew to use to it. So use to it that now I have to smoke this stuff that gets me insanely high. N I don’t want to be that high it’s starting to mess with my brain. I’m hearing things now that are not real. I know they’re not real but try telling that to a brain that won’t listen and hopped up on really good k2. I’m only 24 and gained about 50 plus pounds on this stuff because of the never ending hunger k2 gives me.

  • Brittany

    my boyfriend and the father of my 4 year old son is very addicted to it. I’m not really sure what to do anymore. I try to be there for him to help him quit but he just wont stop.. i need help. i kicked him out of the house and it just made things worse. he told our son he was goin to get help and come back home well now hes home hes doing nothing to stop. he stopped for 3 months but then started hanging out with his bad friends and started back up… is there anything i can do?

    • ana

      Same with me. We have 2 girls 7 months and one the way im 18 hes 17 they just took him in to d.t he has been in and out tells me he quits but everytime i turn around bes doing it again so i left him and if he wants to see the kids he has to be clean for a year and he can see the kids but i have to be there with them he can’t be alone with them untill a year or so.

  • macie

    my dad was always smoking Like 2 bags a day. He always had some. For like 2 to 3 years stright. But in one of those years he only smoked real with me. He smoked fake a lot. He was never sober and always had that smell on him. And he recently stayed in hotels because he had a warrant for his arrest for violating probation. And almost a month ago I found himlaying in his hotel bed with k2 all over him and vomit lifeless. I wish i could have stopped it. He didn’t get to see what I looked like for my freshman prom. Please people don’t smoke this stuff. I’ve also seen a 13 year old get mixed emotions and kinda paralyzed and throwing up. From over dosing twice. Please people. Stop this stuff its so bad. And I miss my dad so much

  • billy

    This website and the help of god litterly saved my life. I can’t thank you guys enough. Its like my whole life mission now is to help others get off this junk. I salute you guys.

  • sad girl

    Help me my partner is addicted and I don’t know what to do. His health and our finance s are suffering. Is there a place to get help in Perth Western Australia. Sad girl loves boy

  • Bree

    I have a friend that is on this stuff bad
    She is losing her hubson and pushing away all her friends and don’t have any kind of ins,, I need to know how I go about getting help for her, c

    • azsassygirl

      The only is cold turkey and it is hell make sure you have a lot of Gatorade and cup of soups

  • Pamela Jones

    Please help!!!! My mother is on the verge of becoming physical with me and my daughter is in the mix. She has been on this stuff for 3 years now and it has been a downward spiral for her ever since. I miss my real mother. Ive even had the authorities involved since she has even threatened her own life about my withholding her granchild but they didnt believe me!!!! Pleassssssseeeeee anyone help!!!!!!!

  • Unique1

    My Son who is 18 now is killing himself I have no idea what to do? He is addicted to k2 him and both of my nephews are constantly smoking this stuff. Even if I make my nephew go away my son will meet up with them, How can I get my son to understand that I need him to survive he has a daughter who is 1 that he doesn’t even care about anymore he doesn’t groom all he does is sleep all day wake up be okay for a min then he right back to dosing back off. I moved to the Winchester VA thinking it was less city so less stress and it is not it is the exact opposite who can i call to get help im not sure if i should call the police or not? My son is in the ninth grade he could have done allot better but i come to find out he been smoking spice Please may someone tell me what to do who to call I love my son with all my heart I need him his daughter needs him and his sister please please please help me

    • azsassygirl

      you can beg you can threaten its not going to do any good until he’s actually ready to put it down I’m speaking from somebody who’s had two times , my family disowned me I disown my family but it was up to me to put down the pipe. and spice addicts you so much that until you’re actually ready to quit you won’t quit the only thing you can do is take care of the baby get the baby away from him go to Alanon support meetings for you. Spice will take you to your bottom but intill – you reached your bottom you’re not going to quit

    • Paul

      Omg ma plss get him tht help . I’m the same exact age and this website was like a shotgun blast to the spice . i felt bettr literally 30 min after scrolling around and making the change to quit

    • kms

      First of all- I am sorry you are going though this. 2nd- I was born and raised in Front Royal, (if you live in winchester you should know where this is) and my parents moved me away from there when I was 13 to Myrtle Beach SC… I still ended up smoking the shit. You can go to a mental health facility and tell them whats going on, most of the time they will do a mandatory psych evaluation (72 hrs.) by then he will be just about be done withdrawing and the craving will be gone by day 5. IF you cannot afford the hospital stay and have to do it on you own, search for his stash DAILY, flush it, don’t allow him to go anywhere, be patient because its one of the worst feelings in the word. Let him smoke weed until the cravings withdraws stop, it really makes it easier to eat and hold down food. If he doesn’t comply, get an eviction notice served to him, but offer to help if he is willing to quit.

      • Unique1

        Thanks for responding me and yes I do where Front Royal is, But I contacted north western community service they told me if he is not willing to seek help i cant force him? I would be wasting my time forcing him into rehab if he doesnt want to change but I dont know? cause he is stuck to the point he doesnt care about nothing or anything or anyone for that matter.. I have prayed and made him pray even though he was mubbling) nothing is working. He has so much support even his Girlfriend try to take him to frontroyal to get him away from from temptation but she says he always fight to come back just to get high? she does plan on leaving him and I dont blame her. I have done the most if he come home high I will call the ambalnce just incase he is overdose and I told him and my nephew if I see them on the streets I would call the police on them (they dont care) But it hard for me to destroy other peoples privacy because my son is a addict? So when I did call cop all they told him is not to be out side looking drunk up ? It sad but I rather see him in jail than killing his self. My options are so thin Please pray for me PLEASE

        • azsassygirl

          he isn’t a direct price is extremely addictive until he is actually ready to quit on his own you can beg and plead and fraction and pray but he is not going to change until he is absolutely ready there is no rehab that will accept him until he’s ready to say I am an addict and need help the best thing for you to do is go to Alanon meetings and learn how to deal with it maybe practice test love and it’s time to let him go on his own trust me from one to another he won’t quit until he’s absolutely hit hit bottom what his bottom is only he knows

  • azsassygirl

    I’ve been clean from spice now almost 4 months I’ve got a new job I’m rebuilding my life and my financial status the status again and also I can think about is man a bowl would sure taste good but then I remember the withdrawal being such hell this is my second time clean last time I went a year without it I wonder if the cravings will ever go away

  • Joe

    Me and my dad smoke spice. We both have an addiction to spice. I been reading most of the stories people been telling and its really got to me, how most of this stories i can relate too. Smoking spice has really taken control of my life and as well as my dad. I cant go to sleep if i dont have a bag for the night, when i wake up in the morning all i can think about is going staright for a bowl. If i dont have a bowl in the morning i wake up with strees, mad, not hungry, or i would get angry of any little thing. The thing is that spice really has change the way i am, also the way i react to people.
    Me and my dad really need help to stop because i have realized that this drug aint taking me or him nowhere.
    We both be smoking spice for about 2years now, and all i seen threw out those 2 years was that i was making my mother and sister suffer.
    I wouldn’t spend much time with my family. All i would think about is going to buy another bag. And the next day and the next day i would do the same. Starting today i will try to stop.
    And spend more time with my family. Thanks for having this site,where people can realize what they doing to their lives.

    • Paul

      Stand strong man Stan strong

    • This Guy

      Joe, show your dad this site, PLEASE.

      My ex told me about my behavior, but I wouldn’t listen. As I’m reading these stories, I realize that is me. What I’m hoping for is that your father will come to the same conclusion.

  • heather

    Dam they were charging u 30 a bag wholesale like that …..Dam they made a killing bags in Houston were being sold wholesale like 12or 13 bucks any kind 7h Diablo space cadet klimax…what the fuck…texas trill…atomic bomb …that shit is so popular here in corpus Christi I hate it

  • Heather aka weda

    Please help me I just got engaged and hot pregnant and I want to quit so bad tears stream down my face as I write the words because I can’t believe I’m this sick off of the potpourri…a lot of my family smokes it and friends do to…I had quit about ttyl8rt months ago and was doing so good then I started to have urges and went to score a blunt …on mother’s day this year I fell while smoking in the restroom on the toilet to hide the.smell from my fiance ..I smoked in there alone and would stay in the restroom for at least an hour this time I woke up off the floor I didn’t have any clothing on…it was early my dude had ran to get tacos or something and I decided to take a quick smoke break but all I remember is getting up off the floor running to my bed and laying down but when I looked down at my pillow it was covered in blood…I freaked and ran back to the mirror in rr…I had never seen so much blood on my body it was already going below my breasts and allover my back and shoulders and I didn’t even know what happened …I had fell when I nodded out 5 staples to the back of the head on mother’s day…good one mom!….and I still wanted to get high I know all about the withdrawals as I have quit before and know it hell….right now I’m smoking like a half a bag a day that’s like 5g…I used to do a whole bag everyday…I’ve cut down to probably like e.g. a day but I don’t want to harm my baby but the sickness is horrid being prego….please help me quit this trash I hate it …and my stomach hu rt s …I’m trying so hard but the pain is so real

  • Heather aka weda

    What a true definition of what this stuff does to a person …please spread the wordstop the production of this potpourri in developing countries

  • Heather aka weda

    Gatorade

  • Paul

    Writing this on my fourth sober day wit shaky hands Bless this website and everysingle of you who just saved my life ….Here come the tears lol but have they never felt better

    • azsassygirl

      hang in there Paul drink lots of Gatorade and just remember you are going to be better for this cool showers help with the hot cold sweats

  • Becky

    Hi guys,
    reading everyone’s stories has been bringing home how my life used to be. I’m a lifetime addict, 20+ years of abusing drugs. Nothing would be passed by if it would get me high. I spent my life going from one drug to another…always wanting to feel better and not realizing (for a long time) that I was unhappy, and scared- I wanted to be fixed…I thought drugs were going to do that for me. I was wrong.

    My step son turned me onto spice about 5 years ago, Like a lot of others have written I thought it smelled awful and tasted bad too. I remember thinking “this sucks” and not liking the high initially. Of course I’m an addict…and I am incapable of just letting it sit there and go to waste (even though I didn’t really like it) so I tried it again, and again and again.

    Soon I was like so many others on here, I was 100% hooked. My highs were comparable to heroine. I’d smoke until I’d “nod out”, I’d come to and smoke more until I’d “nod out” This cycle would go on all day everyday, I’d wake up from sleep to smoke it. I couldn’t wait for others to leave me alone so I could smoke to the degree I wanted to. I’d hide from everyone, and isolate…At the time I had a med. (marijuana) card (I’m in CA) and I couldn’t have cared less about smoking weed anymore. My head said “it’s legal and that makes it 1. safe and 2. legal…woo hoo” I’ve been stopped by cops and they don’t even confiscate it…I’m not sure if they can. It seems like a win win drug.

    Nothing about smoking spice is fun. The paragraph above is the best of the best reasons I smoked it. To forget how I was feeling, forget everyone around me, have zero responsibilities, I know its hard to understand if your not an addict…but all I wanted back then was to be completely detached from life. Life was painful, and scary, people hurt me and I hurt people, lots of guilt and shame and drugs made me forget.

    The downsides…I was filthy all the time, I didn’t bathe, clean or care for myself or my home at all. I was full of ANXIETY…oh man it’s the worst, heart beating out of my chest until I thought I’d die. Spice was causing me to have some sort of esophageal problems. I would cough 2 times and puke. I don’t want to gross anyone out, but if I didn’t care about myself or anything else…what makes you think I’d care about the puke? I’d keep bags by my “nod off” chair and use those, and I’d tie them up and toss them on the floor along with all the other debris that had become my existence. If I didn’t catch the bag in time I’d just wipe it off myself…I just didn’t care.

    My soul had been completely depleted, I was just a mindless, action-less zombie.

    I WANTED TO DIE!!!

    Remember I have abused all sorts of drugs to the fullest degree and lengths of time. I think that is what makes spice so super scary, it’s being plugged as safe and legal.

    So…I’ve been clean for 2 years 9 months and 25 days…today.

    I can not tell you what made me stop, I was so miserable, I had nothing left, my soul felt completely vacant, I was physically ill all the time, my home was…well it was disgusting, and I didn’t care about anyone but myself…and I had zero f**ks to give about myself I was desperate to change
    I had reached my bottom

    Withdrawals are awful, for 7 days I could not keep down any food or water, even in the smallest amounts and I would throw up. That anxiety I spoke of earlier was debilitating. My hands would shake (paul…I feel ya buddy) On day 7 I pretty much fell apart, I couldn’t hardly move I was weak and sick from not smoking the spice. I drove with a friend to the ER and was admitted for “drug withdrawal symptoms” My heart was racing and slowing to way to slow and the doctor said “Becky, if I don’t give you something to calm you down your going to walk out of here and have a heart attack” Because the doctors do not know the ingredients of spice they did a ton of panels of blood work. That ER visit cost me 5k and It took me 2 years to gratefully pay back. I believe I would have died had I kept on at the rate I was going. After the sedative and lots of fluids I left the hospital feeling…awful, but not like I was going to die. My anxiety began to lessen and I began to work on myself and my life.

    I am recovering day by day…and I will always be an addict. I have not done this alone, I looked into addiction and found the help I needed. I believe we can all recover, but it takes work and work and work.

    For those of you trying, stay the course…please…the alternative for me was death and today I get to live and it’s beautiful, I am happy.

    For those of you seeking help for someone you love who is suffering-I wish I had a cure all, but there is not one. I wish I could say that monitoring friends, income, location, checking their eyes and pockets, keeping them under lock and key…well I wish it would help because I understand your efforts are to save someone you love, unfortunately-I truly believe no one changes until they are ready to change. In the meantime you are sacrificing yourself for someone else, and that’s not healthy for you. :( I understand the pain I created and my heart goes out to anyone who loves an addict.

    • azsassygirl

      gratulations thank you for your story when I read your story it was like I was reading my story spice doesn’t know any age or income or race brackets and the cravings are so bad with spice I’ve never been so addicted as I was to that I’ve been clean now almost four months now for my second go round every time I want to pick up the pipe I come on this site and I read a story and it reminds me why I walked away from. I tried going to NA meetings they just didn’t deal with the same thing this site actually helps me I’ve rebuilt my life back over from scratch and also I can say is I’m taking it one day at a time but thank God there are people like you sharing your story to help others that are still struggling and I have the same advice until you’re ready to quit you’re not going to quit spice won’t let you into you actually hit your bottom

      • Becky

        Congratulations to you too!!! Four months is awesome :) it’s an awful drug and I’m so glad we’re staying away from it. And I’m really glad for this site, it’s so nice to know I’m not alone.

        • azsassygirl

          Me to it so helps esp when for some reason. This drug won’t. Let u go i woke up last night and swore i could just taste a bowl . It helps knowing others r going thru the same and we r not alone

    • This Guy

      You are absolutely right. It didn’t matter what people had to say about this stuff, chances are, they got their information from the local horror news; so what do they know?

      I had to hit rock bottom, and then I quit. Problem is I relapsed after a year. I have lost quite a bit: house, car, marriage. I’m rebuilding myself, got a new apartment and bought a car.

      I just quit 2 days ago, this is my third day.

  • Brooke

    Brooke

  • D

    This site is a blessing. I’m currently at work deciding what to do with the spice that is coming in today’s mail. The more and more I stay on this site and read, the stronger the feeling to quit. I’m going to see my shrink today and plan to tell him I’m quitting spice. He will be thrilled. I’ve been in denial of an addiction for months. The only part that’s driving me crazy is I’m still 50/50 on what I should do about the bag I get today. Part of me wants to flush it to prevent it making me order more, but the other half wants it to be the last bag I use. This addiction is a lot stronger than I thought. I have been addicted to heroin and benzo’s and never experienced some of the feelings I have with spice. I know this shit is terrible, but I still want to burn it. I know the right answer is to FLUSH it ASAP. My goal after today was to go back to the real deal weed. So here I sit, reading more stories so I hopefully make the right choice when I get home and flush that shit and never think about touching it again. This addiction is just sick.

  • Bill

    Why was my story removed from the thread? I am going through the withdrawal that everyone on this site is experiencing. If the cursing in my post is the issue I do apologize and ask that you repost my thread without the swearing sincerely bill

  • D

    Made the right choice yesterday and flushed 10g’s worth of this shit and regretted it all night. I kept getting minor feelings of “huraah bro, good going tossing that shit”. I couldn’t sleep and am currently at work. I can leave if I need to. I know I made the right decision. It just takes time for that feeling to dominate the addiction. GREAT SITE. THANK YOU

    • Anonymous

      Stay strong man we are going through this at the same time so I feel your pain man. Just please commit to yourself and remember how bad your feeling right now and at least for me it’s enough to say, “is a fifteen min high worth all of this misery in detoxing?”. Trust me man its not worth it. Even though I felt like in dying I know that this is the first step in healing. UOUR Doing Great Man And If Nobody Has Told U Yet I’m PROUD Of U For MAK8NG This decision! Stay strong man it has to get better from here.

      • Anonymous

        Just so u know I’m bill from the previous post

  • Anonymous

    Vitamin B12 for nervous system, ensure to keep protein in your body, Gatorade for the dehydration and gnc amplified creatine 189. this is my survival kit that seems to be helping me at the moment hope this helps

  • Anonymous

    Hey man check out my last post I found a few things that help with the withdrawals that’s helping me now. I’m warning you man the first two days are gonna be terrible and ur gonna feel like ur dying . U might wanna try to take a week off. I know if I went in to work today they would notice and immediately send me for testing. I was lucky and was able to convince my job that I worked the past 2 years with no Vaca and I needed one this week. They think I’m in another state on a beach having a good time when in fact I’m locked in my apartment detoxing severily. I’ll be here for the next week checking this page every thirty min to keep my sanity so I’m here for u dude I’m thinking of making an email just to talk to people on here so if u want let me know and I’ll set it up so we can communicate more directly. Bill.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    So it’s bill again day two now and I feel a world of difference. I’m still withdrawing like crazy but it’s coming in waves. I’ll sweat for an hour n then I’m good for like 30 min. I’m sorry if this is annoying but I’m gonna use this place to express myslef. D I hope ur still staying strong man. I’m praying for everyone here and that’s a sentence I never though I would say. I lost my faith when priest were stating to get busted for pedophilia. I said how can there be a god that allows this to happen but I realized god gave us free will. We can decide to use that will for good or for evil. I was shocked when everytime I felt like I was dying from this, I pulled out the rosary beads, said a prayer and I felt better. I could have pulled out the pipe but instead i now pray when im craving a fix. I dont want to sound like some crazy bible banger but I truly believe he reached down and smacked some sense in my head.

  • Anonymous

    Bill again day three and food never tasted so good. There is hope people. D I hope ur still staying strong and I’m still praying for every one here. If I never smoke again it will be too soon. Clear thoughts are amazing. Life is too short to be living in a haze. Today is the first day of the rest of your life! LIVE IT AND LOVE IT! YOU ONLY HAVE ONE LIFE AND WHEN IT’S OVER THERE IS NO RESTART BUTTON. DON’T BECOME THE ZOMBIE THAT THIS STUFF WILL TURN U INTO.

  • D

    D here. Glad to hear you’re doing better Bill. I am do well too. I got REALLY lucky and barely got WD’s. I’m feeling pretty good. Sadly cravings are driving me mad. I can’t get weed atm so I’m dying for a blend. I know NOT to ever smoke blends again, but man this sucks. Tossed all my shit this week and kinda regret it. YUP this ADDICTION sucks. It will make you second guess yourself. Don’t let it win. YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER YOU, NOT THE SMOKE. Trust me you don’t wanna relapse on this shit.

    Hope others going through the struggle are hanging in. This is one of the toughest things you will do in life, but it’s also one the best choices on can make. NEVER smoke incense again no matter what.

  • D

    D again. Still going strong. But I got major depression today and cravings. This stuff is so damn evil. I can’t wait to feel “normal”. Don’t try this stuff.

  • spce brother

    Bill your story offers console to me. My brother is heavily addicted to this drug. I smell my brother smoking at all times of the day. Its been 4 years now. He has stolen from myself and the family countless times and has gone into violent phychosis a few times. He looks terrible. He now has this nasty, nasty smokers cough. It seems like his immune system is withering away.

    I am going to continue seeking help for him. He doesn’t want it but we don’t want to see him dead as he is very young with a bright future.

    • This Guy

      Is he familiar with the withdrawal symptoms? That was the eye-opener for me.

  • http://spiceaddictionsupport.org/ SpiceAddictionSupport

    Hi Bill. This is Bobby T, admin for the site.

    Thank you for sharing your day-by-day experience with everyone here. This is exactly the kind of involvement that changes lives.

    Here’s to better days ahead!

  • dora

    hello everybody. I came to this page for help. my husband is becoming a heavy smoker of spice. he shows aggression at times, most of the times he’s out of it, meaning he’s space out. he gets stiff to the point were he cant move, or walk or even talk. sometimes I have to beg him to drink water. I cried to him so many times to stop . I stressed out way too much, which I can’t even be doing that because I am 7 months pregnant. as mush as it hurts, im already deciding to leave because I don’t want him around me like that because of the smell and I don’t want him like that around our child if he continues. I don’t even sleep because im scared he will walk out of the house to smoke. he smokes it as if it was weed (we were marijuana smokers before I got pregnant) I really don’t know what to do anymore, I don’t want to walk out but im running out of ways to help him. any advice is helpful, im desperate. I really don’t remember when was the last time he was sober and that really hurts me.

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